Woodie Guthrie, Racism, Trump, and Beach Haven
From an old sixties coffee house person, just a little history. In 1950, Woodie Guthrie signed a two year lease to reside in a Fred Trump’s Brooklyn development. Having wandered around the countryside for a number of years, he knew the North did not have any special claim to racial enlightenment. One event of a shooting at a bus terminal in Freeport, Long Island stuck in his mind. “Ferguson Brothers Killing” by Woody Guthrie.
“The town that we ride through is not Rankin, Mississippi,
Nor Bilbo’s Jim Crow town of Washington, D. C.
But it’s greater New York, our most fair-minded city
In all this big land here and streets of the brave.Who’ll tell these three boys that their Daddy is gone?
(He helped whip the Fascists and Nazis to death)
Who’ll tell these three sons that Jim Crow coffee
Has killed several thousand the same as their dad?”
Fred Trump used federal funding to build what became known as Beach Haven and what Woody would call “Bitch Havens” in time and after discovering the racism of Fred Trump. Fred methodically blocked black Americans from taking resident in his development. Woody responded with a song called “Old Man Trump.”
“I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
he stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his
Eighteen hundred family project ….”
Fred Trump was arrested in 1927 for participating in a Ku Klux Klan rally in Queens. The Beach Haven apartment complex was built afterwards and it was was intended to give returning WW II veterans affordable housing. With his words to the public about the Charlottesville riots by white supremacists, Donald could have changed what his father left as a legacy for him. Instead, he purposely chose not to do to placate them. As David Duke said publically. . . . “remember who put you in office.”
Trump 2015: “ My legacy has its roots in my father’s legacy.”
In the age of Trump, we need another Woodie Gunthrie to remind us of our history. Then too, Trump would probably tie him up in court.
Today, Trump finally denounced the thuggery and racism. I am sure this came after he was told to do it.
Even Richard Spencer saw through the hollow, too-little-too-late Trump “denunciation.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-nationalist-calls-presidents-denouncement-of-hate-groups-kumbaya-nonsense_us_59923778e4b09096429961e8?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
I was as stunned as anyone to see him walk back his lukewarm condemnation of the KKK and nazis today. The guy is a flat out racist, has always been a racist and will always be a racist. He is also a fascist in the finest German tradition and everyone knew it before the election. It is time for the GOP to take action or forever be considered a racist, racist party and all of its supporters the same.
Terry:
If you read the last couple of lines of my post. He said he is his father’s legacy.
My question is why this act by Trump is news.
There is no difference between Nixon, Reagan and Trump except for his inability to speak in dog whistles. Now, that might not even be a disability, it might be because he needed to make it totally clear to his base.
The GOP is totally racist, and has been so for 50 years.
Don’t think so?
Then explain voter suppression.
This is who they have been for half a century.
And Dems need to stop treating them like human beings, instead of the scum they actually are.
“And Dems need to stop treating them like human beings, instead of the scum they actually are.”
Emichael is unhinged. His personal obsession with racism is projected: “The GOP is totally racist, and has been so for 50 years.”
Conservative commentators are routinely banned from AB for much less inflammatory and unsupported statements. So if you are not full on Liberal and/or voted for Trump, you are a racist? Yeah, that is profound.
Sammy:
Commenters who have multiple identities such as Bert did or who refuse to follow direction are trashed a few times and then spammed. It is not something done casually. Trump is a pronounced racist.
run,
“Trump is a pronounced racist.”
I don’t think so. There is very little evidence of this. You are swallowing the latest Resist meme, hook, line, and sinker.
He is an “Americanist”…. whatever race you are, if you embrace American ideals, he is your champion.
I will go you one further not only is Trump a racist like his father was Trump is also a xenophobe and a misogynist. These are not a matter of a few off-colored jokes in the locker room as Trump and others would claim. It is a deep seated conviction of Trump more than likely coming about from his childhood environment. Like he has said; he is living his father’s legacy.
Misogynist
– Trump once sent a copy of a piece New York Times columnist Gail Collins wrote that criticized him back to her, with her face circled and, “The Face of a Dog” written on it.
– He told Esquire, “You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”
– In his book How to Get Rich, he wrote, “All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”
– He told a lawyer who requested a break from a deposition to pump breast milk, “You’re disgusting.”
– In appearances on The Howard Stern Show, he speculated that he could’ve had sex with Princess Diana if he’d wanted to before her death, called avoiding STDs from casual sex his “personal Vietnam,”
– assigned each actor on Desperate Housewives an attractiveness score from 1 to 10 (on Nicollette Sheridan: “A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10”)…
– said of his and Melania’s future children, “I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them,” called women who get breast reductions “insane,” said women who see him “will walk up, and they’ll flip their top, and they’ll flip their panties,” and declared that it would be hard for him to get an erection for Madonna. He really did say all those things on that show.
– Foer notes that he frequently brags about sleeping with married or otherwise attached women, telling Stern, “I’ve been successful with your girlfriend, I’ll tell you that,” and writing in The Art of the Comeback, “If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married and important women, this book would be a guaranteed best-seller.”
– He infamously said of his own daughter, “I don’t think Ivanka would do that [pose for Playboy], although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”
– He called Karen Attiah, a Washington Post editor, “beautiful” after she asked him serious policy questions at an editorial board meeting.
– He told biographer Timothy L. O’Brien that his favorite part of Pulp Fiction is the scene “when Sam has his gun out in the diner and he tells the guy to tell his girlfriend to shut up. Tell that bitch to be cool. Say: ‘Bitch, be cool.’ I love those lines.”
– Of Arianna Huffington, he declared, “I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man — he made a good decision.”
– You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever.” He retweeted someone calling her a bimbo:
– He launched his presidential campaign by calling Mexican immigrants to the US “rapists,” and doubled down when criticized
– Temple Taggart, a former Miss Utah, said that he kissed her on the lips at the Miss USA pageant, twice, against her will.
– Carrie Prejean, a former Miss California, recalled Trump ordering contestants to line up in revealing outfits so he could “divide the room between girls he personally found attractive and those he did not. … Some of the girls were sobbing backstage after he left.”
– Barbara Res, a former head of construction for Trump, says he would needle her for gaining weight, saying, “You like your candy.” Louise Sunshine, another veteran of the Trump Organization, recalls similar comments but interpreted them as loving.
– Res recalled Trump not allowing a woman he deemed unattractive to take lunch orders for outside visitors to the office.
– He forced former Miss Universe Alicia Machado to work out at a gym with media present when he judged her to have gained too much weight. “After that episode,” she told the Times, “I was sick, anorexia and bulimia for five years.”
– According to a 1992 New York magazine piece, he once said, “Women: you have to treat ’em like shit.”
– “Rosie O’Donnell is disgusting — both inside and out. If you take a look at her, she’s a slob. How does she even get on television? If I were running The View, I’d fire Rosie. I’d look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers and say, ‘Rosie, you’re fired.’ We’re all a little chubby but Rosie’s just worse than most of us.”
Racism and Xenophobe
– out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations.
-When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
– In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
– “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
– Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
– In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
– Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
– Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
– Just a few years ago, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
– Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.”
– While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
– Trump launched his campaign calling Mexican immigrants “rapists” who are “bringing crime” and “bringing drugs” to the US. His campaign is largely built on building a wall to keep these immigrants out of the US.
– He called for a ban on all Muslims coming into the US. He has since expanded this ban to include anyone from specific countries, including possibly France and Germany.
– When asked at a Republican debate whether all 1.6 billion Muslims hate the US, Trump said, “I mean a lot of them. I mean a lot of them.”
– He argued that Judge Gonzalo Curiel — who’s overseeing the Trump University lawsuit — should recuse himself from the case because of his Mexican heritage and membership in a Latino lawyers association. House Speaker Paul Ryan, who’s endorsed Trump, later called such comments “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”
– Trump has been repeatedly slow to condemn white supremacists who endorse him, and he regularly retweets messages from white supremacists and neo-Nazis.
– He tweeted and later deleted an image that showed Hillary Clinton in front of a pile of money and by a Jewish Star of David that said, “Most Corrupt Candidate Ever!” The tweet had some very obvious anti-Semitic imagery, but Trump insisted that the star was a sheriff’s badge, and said his campaign shouldn’t have deleted it.
– Trump has repeatedly referred to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who has said she has Cherokee ancestors, as “Pocahontas”
– At the Republican convention, he officially seized the mantle of the “law and order” candidate — an obvious dog whistle playing to white fears of black crime, even though crime in the US is historically low.
– In a pitch to black voters, Trump said, “You’re living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?”
– Did David Duke endorse Trump or did David Duke endorse Clinton?
– Was David Duke (klan member) angry at Trump for what he said a couple of days ago and then happy with what he said yesterday?
– Trump attacked Muslim Gold Star Parents or people who are not white and could not possibly be true Americans? Khizr Khan, the father of the late Army Captain Humayun Khan, spoke out against Trump’s bigoted rhetoric and disregard for civil liberties at the Democratic National Convention on July 28.
Trump seized on Ghazala Khan’s silence to insinuate that she was forbidden from speaking due to the couple’s Islamic faith. The following day that she could not speak because of grief over her son.
“Walking onto the convention stage, with a huge picture of my son behind me, I could hardly control myself. What mother could?” she wrote. “Donald Trump has children whom he loves. Does he really need to wonder why I did not speak?”
– Three times in a row on Feb. 28, Trump sidestepped opportunities to renounce white nationalist and former KKK leader David Duke, who told his radio audience last week that voting for any candidate other than Trump is “really treason to your heritage.”
– His white supremacist fan club includes the Daily Stormer, a leading neo-Nazi news site; Richard Spencer, director of the National Policy Institute, which aims to promote the “heritage, identity, and future of European people”; Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance, a Virginia-based white nationalist magazine; Michael Hill, head of the League of the South, an Alabama-based white supremacist secessionist group; and Brad Griffin, a member of Hill’s League of the South and author of the popular white supremacist blog Hunter Wallace.
– A leader of the Virginia KKK who is backing Trump told a local TV reporter earlier this month, “The reason a lot of Klan members like Donald Trump is because a lot of what he believes, we believe in.”
Sammy, take a walk. I am running out of patience with your lack forthrightness on racism, bigotry, supremacy, xenophobia, and misogyny. It leaves me with the impression you are of the same ilk.
run,
Emichael calls the opposition sub human and “scum.” This is how you dehumanize people, opening the door to unlawful violence. Perhaps you should amend the comment policy to try to avoid this.
Sammy:
What happened in Charlottesville is an example of what human scum and degenerates perpetuating acts of violence hiding behind freedom of speech. As a Marine who was trained in riot control, the bastards would have been disarmed by us, many of whom served in Vietnam and a large percentage black Marines. I have zero tolerance for bigots, racists, and supremacists. You are on the wrong site if you think for one moment I would tolerate supremacists here.
Bigots, racists, and supremacists are subhuman and I would march against them.
There is no need to amend anything as you know what is right or wrong.
If you vote for a racist, one who has shown that to be true for more than 40 years, then you are a racist.
Got nothing to do with liberal. Trump is what he has always been.
Who wears paramilitary gear and carries automatic weapons to a rally? Who takes shields and helmets and pepper spray and bats and sticks to a rally? The car didn’t “crash” — it was driven at full speed into a crowd of counter-protesters.