Traveling Globally and in the United States
I have traveled globally and also into Mexico as well as other places. Enough so that I burned through one passport in two years. I have met some interesting people while traveling. Also, I have never had much trouble going in and out of countries. The agents were always courteous. And going in and out of Mexico was relatively easy too.
The only exception was coming back to the US. It was a matter of time of waiting an hour or so to get through the border. While the TSA card helps, you still wait in a long line in your car to get to the agent. Coming back from Tucson and being stopped at a temporary Customs setup about 10 miles from the border. I was the only one in the car. Typically going into the US or Mexico, they can stop you or wave you on if there is no lineup.
I move by experience. I move 5 mph through the Customs site. The US agent on duty slapped the back of the car so I stopped. He asked; “Why didn’t you stop? I answered; “You did not wave me to do so like they do at the border so I kept moving.” Showed my TSA card and was released. No set rules or procedures. They call the shots.
Another time going into China at Beijing. Stopped at the Chinese Customs site at the airport. Filled out the document with the pencil at the station and went to the Chinese agent. In very clear English, he told me, “fill it out in ink please.” Went back to the counter and did so. The English was clear and precise. This is not true in some places.
Overseas I was always treated with respect at the borders by the agents on duty. I am not so sure I would travel outside of the US much. You have to consider the way our president(?) treats people of foreign origin.
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Friends don’t let friends visit America
A relatively short post today, involving a story you may not have heard about. But it’s a very important story — indeed, arguably it amounts to a significant international crisis.
You see, General Motors has been building a factory complex in Mexico. But last week, the Mexican government agents descended on the facility, arresting hundreds of U.S. citizens who had been working on the project, claiming that they were in Mexico illegally. Many, probably most, were in fact there legally. But they had trouble explaining this, because the agents didn’t speak English.
So those U.S. citizens were arrested. And not just arrested: they were placed in shackles and imprisoned under terrible conditions. When the Mexican government finally realized that it had made a mistake, it sent the Americans home but kept them shackled until they reached the departure airport. Incredibly, the Mexican president initially backed the raid and has never had the grace to offer a full-throated apology for what happened.
OK, if you don’t recognize this story, it might be because I changed a few facts. This wasn’t a General Motors project, it was a battery factory being built by the Korean auto company Hyundai. The events didn’t take place in Mexico; they took place in America, specifically in Georgia. The arrested employees were South Korean citizens, not Americans, and they were unable to communicate because none of the ICE agents making the raid spoke Korean. But everything else about the story was exactly as I described it.
The reason I pulled the identity switcheroo was to help readers imagine how we would react if something like this happened to Americans trying to do business abroad. There would be a wave of outrage, coupled with demands for retaliation — maybe even demands that we invade Mexico. And you would expect many companies — not just American corporations — to reconsider any plans they might have had to invest in Mexico. Who wants to do business in a lawless country where anyone visiting is at risk of being chained up and imprisoned?
Why imagine that the South Korean reaction is any different? South Korea isn’t what Donald Trump would call a “shithole country.” It is, in fact, one of the greatest economic success stories in history, a nation that was poorer than Haiti in the early 1960s and now has a European-level standard of living. It’s a manufacturing powerhouse: The reason Hyundai was building that factory was that the Koreans are very good at manufacturing, often better than we are.
Oh, and South Korea is or was an important U.S. ally. Not long ago relations between the two nations were good enough that we signed a free trade agreement, although Trump has ripped up that agreement without bothering to explain why solemn U.S. promises apparently don’t matter anymore.
And the South Koreans are, by all accounts, every bit as outraged as you might expect. One editorial, flagged by Daniel Drezner, declared
The sight of our workers being led out in chains resembles images of African slaves in the 18th and 19th centuries being dragged out by their owners.
How did this happen? Even if there had been good reason to believe that a significant number of the South Koreans at the site were violating the terms of their visas — which they weren’t — civilized nations don’t suddenly arrest hundreds of citizens of an allied nation without warning and place them in chains. Why not contact Hyundai about the alleged issue? Why not notify the South Korean government?
As far as we can tell, what happened in Georgia was a symptom of ICE running out of control. The agency has been told by Stephen Miller, Trump’s immigration czar, to meet a quota of 3,000 arrested immigrants a day. So when its agents raided a facility full of nonwhite people, it just grabbed them, chained them, and locked them up.
The Hyundai raid hasn’t received much attention in the U.S. news media, which is arguably understandable given everything else going on. But the diplomatic and economic fallout will be immense. Trump has been saying that his policies have brought in $17 Musks trillion in foreign investment, which would be an absurd number even if America were behaving like a normal country with rule of law. But it’s even more absurd given the Hyundai incident.
I’m not a business executive, but if I were making decisions for a multinational corporation I’d be really hesitant about making large investments in a nation where foreigners never know whether they will in effect be kidnapped by masked thugs who supposedly work for the government but are clearly running amok. I don’t know about you, but I’d be strongly tempted to consider such a nation a shithole country.

If I were a foreign worker, I’d think twice about coming to work in the US for the same reason.
Joel:
In China and traveling., I felt safe. The citizens/people were nice to us. Most were excited to talk to us.
@Bill,
I had the same experience in Russia in 1998 and 2003. But I wouldn’t travel to Russia today. I would certainly feel unsafe.
Joel:
Yes, I agree. Tr_mp has tainted foreign relations so badly, I would probably spend much time explaining why we in the US are not as bad as it appears. Literally, you would be spending more time explaining how you were not a part of “them” and your beliefs are way different. You would get the “but” answers in return. Tr_mp and Repubs have tainted the political atmosphere and water so bad, I believe it is truly dangerous to travel outside of the US.
You are liable to run into legal difficulties too. It is sad as we always did our part to blend as much as we could instead of being the truly ugly American.