Yeah, and Democrats Stormed the Capitol!!!
Listen to Chris Christi babbling to David Muir about the 2000 election and Al Gore losing to Bush. In the same breath, Chris is saying similar about Clinton’s loss to the soon-to-be insurrectionist trump in 2016. Trying, trying to draw a comparison to Democrats losing to Repubs in 2000 and 2016 and their showing just as much anger. Claiming their questioning was just as serious as what occurred after trump lost.
The YouTube Clip is set to play Chris Christie’s complaints shortly. Listen as Muir shuts him down.
In 2005, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs (D-Ohio) and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) rose to challenge Ohio state’s electoral vote.
During the following debate, each chamber discussed the challenge separately. Republicans took turns telling Democrats to “get over” the election. Democrats recited stories of alleged voting irregularities while acknowledging that George W. Bush had more than enough votes to win.
Most Democratic Representatives were more conciliatory. Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) admitted that there was “absolutely no question George W. Bush won,” and said the debate was merely a way of bringing up the issue of election reform to the forefront.
In the end, there was no doubt that the measure would be defeated. The House voted it down, 31-267, while the Senate defeated their version 1-74. “Democrats Contest Ohio Electoral Vote, But Bush Officially Re-elected” – Roll Call
At the end of the 2000 election and the 2004 election, no one attacked the Capitol or plotted and planned an insurrection.
In 2016, Hillary Clinton said she would not rule out questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election. If new information surfaced the Russians interfered even more deeply than currently known, she would consider such action. In an interview with Fresh Air‘s Terry Gross about her new memoir, “What Happened,” Clinton acknowledges that such a challenge would be unprecedented and that “I just don’t think we have a mechanism” for it. Clinton Won’t Rule Out Questioning Election, But Says No Clear Means To Do So : NPR
Here we have Chris Christie babbling away about Democrats laying the foundation for the 2020 insurrection by questioning election results. Except, Christie forgets Democrats were questioning and nothing happened beyond questions and a SCOTUS decision.
Democrats got over losing and Republicans incited an insurrection. There is no equivalency between 2000, 2016, and 2020. Furthermore, Republicans are campaigning in 2022 claiming Biden’s election was illegitimate. Something, Democrats did not do.
Long been my contention history, if there is a history, and historians, if there are historians, will mark the appointment of the scion of old-school Robber Baron, Hitler financing money with limited intellect, less education and no experience by a panel of non-elected, actively partisan vigilantes to the highest office of the land as The End of “America”. We’re where we’re at on momentum, nearing the end of momentum, which of course being momentum loses momentum exponentially the nearer it gets to its end.
The only connection is they got away with it, and expected too again.
Trump was The Mule …
My post is not to say people did not protest trump’s election. They did in fact do so.
It is not in my recollection since 2000 of any effort to overthrow the government. Gore took no action to do so. Clinton did not take such action. People were angry and local authorities handled it. Republicans hated Obama and they denied and still are denying Biden’s election. Some Senators and Congressional Representatives who plotted, knowingly supported, and knew of the effort need to get to know the jail or prison population.
Now Christie and people like Jeffery Lord (who supposedly sat front row) at trump’s speech to the crowd claim trump did not incite a riot. Instead trump’s main thrust was “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” All lost in the balance of trump’s speech.
Trump reiterated “false claims that ‘we won this election and we won it in a landslide'” and “willfully made statements that, in context, encourages and foreseeably resulted in lawless action at the Capitol.” These statements include: “if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
trump was inciting a riot. Fact Check: Did Trump Say to ‘Peacefully and Patriotically’ March to the Capitol?
Some (Lord) are also now saying the 1.5 miles from the rally point to the Capitol building was too far to walk. I did not see many old people using walkers or canes January 6. Lord They are trying to change the ecenario in light of the January 6 Hearings. There is no morality for these people.
my god, me and the dogs can walk a mile and a half without even noticing it. and we are all quite old. i suspect one problem with the people in Washington is they have forgotten how to walk.
Not critical, just being typically early morning cryptic.
There’s so many inter-related problems it’s hard to cut to the quick, but the core, the root, is the Gestapo Court. It needs to be resolved. Sadly, that more are only suddenly becoming aware of it is about like closing the proverbial barn-door. We might have a minute or two left to do something before a rogue branch of government turns us into a fascistic theocratic state, there’s an Amendment for that, but I don’t think so. Like climate-change, we’ve fiddle-farted this thing around too long, and now it’s too late. Tuck and roll.
Gore could have shown some balls, could have waited a bit to concede, get a better feel for what was what, and three of the panel’s current configuration were gestapo clerks that night. Make of that what you will. Skull and Bones. I as angrily denounced ~ renounced ~ him, the court and everything then as loudly then as I do now.
Clinton didn’t need to repeat that bit of foolishness.
! One point five ! Fergoodnesssakes, I PT five two or three mornings a week, and an ungodly number of pushups, pullups and walking-jacks, frequently with walkin’ weights, and I’m knockin’ on seventy’s door!
Laugh. Out. Loud
I am kind of angry right now. In 2012, I went to the doctor complaining of upper chest pain thinking I may have pneumonia again. He did an EKG and found my heart was beating. If he had drawn blood, he might have found my heart enzymes were high or sent me for imaging. Physically, I was in great shape in 2012. So he sent me on my way and I left to go to work in Ohio because there were few jobs in Michigan.
I had a sharp pain in my chest on the way down. Monday while at work, I told my boss I was going to the ER for the pain in my chest. They did the blood draw and the imaging. The next moment I was being rolled back to a room and a half a dozen people were there with me. Two nurses pantsed me and were laughing. I imagine they were thinking what was this guy wearing. Long story short, they cracked my chest on a Thursday and sneezed that Friday. God that hurt.
Monday I was told I need to go to a retinologist to run a scan of my right eye to see if I have a blood clot in one of the arteries. I have decreased vision in that eye. So we called today, two days after the visit like we were told. We called and the Retguy does not have the referral and the Optometrist who was supposed to send it is in training today with his staff. Now he was very anxious for me to get scheduled. He was serious about it. The referral did not get there and we are heading into the weekend. Another time when I am seriously threatened with a health issue . . .
I do not think people take shit seriously. They should be hopping mad with the insurrectionists in Congress and trump. The foot soldiers need a few more go to a regular prison. No comfy camp style prison. And they need to learn this is just a warning.
run – I hope you can get in and get your eye issue fixed. I hate how slow the system often is, and how often foul-ups happen.
They create an issue of urgency and then they don’t follow through. It could be cholesterol that caused the blockage. When I had open heart surgery, my cholesterol was 104. Recently, it was measured at 123. I eat my oats which is like a sponge for LDL. It gets very frustrating as my vision is impaired and I am new to the area just like Ohio. The Michigan medical people have been helping me as well as my daughter the teaching nurse has been also. I do not need another crisis.
I’ve been under treatment for a burst blood vessel in one of my eyes. Probably never squint down the barrel of a rifle again. I skipped right past the GP, found and went to reputable eye clinic. No point in waiting three months to see a GP for a referral a couple months out. Of course, I would still have to find a GP taking on new patients, which appears to be a problem out here. Lot’s of specialists, not a lot of GPs. [I could have a bad attitude though, I’ve always had a hard time getting those people to take me seriously]
I swear, you can see the shot coming down the inside of the needle.
Walk in beauty …
Until it blows up and then “Its why didn’t you?” Half the time they don’t listen. “Too much cholesterol” is the issue much of the time. No one looks at records so I take them with me. Forty years ago I was told to lower it by 30 from 205 when 205 was acceptable. Instead I took it down to 114 and stay there pretty much. Except, they do not look at your history.
You do mean ophthalmologist, right? Not a chance you should not have a MD involved with this.
Optometrist to get my glasses checked and matched to my vision every two years. Usually, they do the puff of air and then the bright light in the eye. They take a picture(?) of the eyeball. Concerned about the arteries in the right eye and thinks I may have a blood clot. He agreed he was not an eye doctor and is sending me to a Retinal specialist(s) to have them look/see. He said he can not correct the 20-60 vision in my right eye (my sharpshooter eye). He believes there “may” be something else going on and wants to make sure.
Trying to get in there soon and before we go to CA. He supposedly sent a referral. When we checked after two days, they did not have it. Sigh . . .
Last time I was not diagnosed properly in-state, I had open heart surgery out-of-state. They did not ask me about cholesterol then as they found it to be 104. Everyone blames cholesterol, first thing out of their mouth is always that, like I have be chowing down on pure fat. Except, I do not have that problem. So I carry my blood records with me on first visits. I do not want to waste time.
Then they have to look for another thing to blame.
No primary care doc yet, working on it. Took two months getting past the clerks to get a Cardiologist as recommended from my Michigan one.
seems to me we have entered a time…which may never have hapened before…or perhaps it has, and i just don’t know enough history…where “rationality” itself is being deliberately overthrown. that is, there have always been lies, but the lies made some sort of (dishonest) appeal to some kind of rationality.
what we have today is people standing up and saying things that blatantly defy rationality. they get away with this because, apparently, many or even most, people have a very feeble grasp of rationality and after a few repetitions, loud and in public, of a lie, not only in contradiction of fact, but in contradiction to thought itself, they believe it.
and it spreads. at some point, it becomes impossible for even “careful” thinkers to know what makes sense, let alone what is true.
as you ought to know, if you did due dilligence, it was the Democrats who stormed the Capitol in a false flag operation to blame the Republicans. and they were uite peaceful.
as for walking: it is necessary to put one foot in front of the other, and to watch where you step. something none of our politicians can do anymore, Republican or Democrat.
Or conservative columnists.
oh them too. to be sure.
but why did Biden appoint a famous enemy of social security to his social security advisory board?
kind of like Obama’s cat food commission
or Clinton’s (the big one) “raising the retirement age is the obvious solution”
or Carter’s “Social Security is not sacrosanct, you know”
and, oh dear, Nancy Altman “Social Security is not broke, it works because it is worker paid insurance and not welfare; so we can fix it by taxing the rich.”
Insanity is all around us.
i gotta go fight weeds.
Take a weed whip.
It’s a Republican seat. They’re all the same.