Trump’s behavior is Bullying according to stopbullying.gov
The #1 priority in our schools is to stop bullying. Any administrator in our school system, by law, must drop anything and everything that they are doing to deal with a situation of bullying. That is the law.
If Trump becomes president, his bullying behavior will cause bullying to increase in our schools.
Yet the bigger problem is that his bullying will create conflicts nationally and internationally that will lead to serious and lasting problems. That is the result of bullying unless it is stopped.
Below is the definition of bullying from stopbullying.gov. (US Department of Health & Human Services)
Bullying is unwanted, aggressive behavior among school aged children that involves a real or perceived power imbalance. The behavior is repeated, or has the potential to be repeated, over time. Both kids who are bullied and who bully others may have serious, lasting problems.
In order to be considered bullying, the behavior must be aggressive and include:
- An Imbalance of Power: Kids who bully use their power—such as physical strength, access to embarrassing information, or popularity—to control or harm others. Power imbalances can change over time and in different situations, even if they involve the same people.
- Repetition: Bullying behaviors happen more than once or have the potential to happen more than once.
Bullying includes actions such as making threats, spreading rumors, attacking someone physically or verbally, and excluding someone from a group on purpose.
Types of Bullying
There are three types of bullying:
- Verbal bullying is saying or writing mean things. Verbal bullying includes:
- Inappropriate sexual comments
- Threatening to cause harm
- Social bullying, sometimes referred to as relational bullying, involves hurting someone’s reputation or relationships. Social bullying includes:
- Leaving someone out on purpose
- Telling other children not to be friends with someone
- Spreading rumors about someone
- Embarrassing someone in public
- Physical bullying involves hurting a person’s body or possessions. Physical bullying includes:
- Taking or breaking someone’s things
- Making mean or rude hand gestures
And here I thought the #1 priority in our schools would be to teach.
That explains why our public schools are some of the worst in the developed world.
While you provide a fine definition of bullying, you give no evidence that supports your assertion that Trump’s behavior fits that definition. In fact, since Trump is not a school-aged child, the provided definition CANNOT fit.
Warren, what proof can you present that Trump does not act like a school-aged child?
And has done so for more than 4 decades we know about?
Where he acts like one or not is irrelevant. He is not a school-aged child, so his behavior cannot fit the definition provided.
Warren, Trump acts like a childish bully in a school. So it is immensely relevant how he acts.
You can see children who are well-behaved and respectful. We call them mature.
When an adult acts like Trump, we call them immature.
That is a nonsensical reply. The what set of behaviors definition given is not age dependent. The definition may have been provided to provide a basis for recognizing and determining a set of behaviors that may be defined as bullying, but says nothing about age levels. It’s a description of a set of human behaviors being applied to a particular age group for the sake of defining a particular basis of illegal behavior.
Ed, Maybe bullying should be described as a high priority issue in our schools, but assigning it to the number one spot may be a bit hyperbolic.
It is a very high priority. I went to a presentation by the local school superintendent. She said bullying was the #1 priority by law. She has to drop anything and everything that she is doing when a case of bullying presents itself by law. That is how serious the situation became.
We can say that our economy is disintegrating, but our culture is too. Trump is a symptom of that.
Warren: “In fact, since Trump is not a school-aged child, the provided definition CANNOT fit.”
We cannot be sure until we see the the long form of his birth certificate. He certainly acts like a child.
“We cannot be sure until we see the the long form of his birth certificate.”
We have video evidence that he was, in fact, alive thirty years ago. Therefore, he is not a school-aged child.
And if Trump’s “bullying” behavior is relevant, then certainly Clinton’s is also:
Are you calling Hillary’s intention to have women investigated as immature?
Now let’s look at the time that Trump needed a permit and the government worker did not give the permit. Trump called him. The next thing you know the permit is granted and the man was working for Trump getting more money. Is that how you want your government to work? I would rather have a woman who wants accusations to be researched first… Hillary seeks out justice. Trump is corrupt.
i’d guess bullying is pretty serious since it leads to the kind of acting out that we saw and Columbine.
I’m not sure that Trump’s behavior fits the definition of bullying: what is the power relationship being taken advantage of here?
On the other hand he “sounds like” a “bullying personality” and I suspect his fan club has a lot of bullies…. or victims of bullying
which includes people who have been bullied by the government or by banks (but possibly not those bullied by the police or people taking advantage of a racist culture.
and of course Trump sounds like bullying would be his first resort if he had the power…
but we should not lose sight of the amount of “bullying” that goes on in America that is a normal part of the way “we” get things done… and could be, for all i know, a necessary part of the way things get done.
[no, i don’t like it either. but being an equal-opportunity bullied person, i don’t delude myself by thinking that only the “other side” bullies.]
if i ever had an inclination to take you seriously, you have ended that right here.
first, your “logic” about “school-aged” is excrable.
second, “teach” doesn’t mean some clinical pouring of knowledge from one vessel into another. you can’t “teach” in an environment of bullying… unless what you are teaching is bullying itself.
“I would rather have a woman who wants accusations to be researched first… Hillary seeks out justice.”
She want ACCUSERS to be investigated, NOT the accusations.
This IS the same woman who blamed a video for the Benghazi murders.
When there is an environment of corruption, righteous ideology and politics, you have to investigate the accusers too.
‘[You] can’t “teach” in an environment of bullying… unless what you are teaching is bullying itself.’
Catholic nuns (armed with rulers) did a fine job of it.
You’re just making my point for me.
“When there is an environment of corruption, righteous ideology and politics, you have to investigate the accusers too.”
So we need to investigate those accusing Trump?
Trump should have investigated Khizr Khan’s family before he started to suspect them of being terrorists. Trump just lost a lot of key support.
Does this qualify as bullying? From a Trump rally yesterday:
“‘I am leading in Florida. The polls all show it. If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud. If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.’”
He also promised a “bloodbath” if the Democrats attempted to “steal” the election.
I hear no discussion about is the fact that Trump being an oligarch is the only person capable of standing up to the new world oder of the oligarch at the top 1% having more money and control over the other 99% in the world ,not just the U.S… Clinton and other elites in the DNC and RNC are and have been doing the dirty work of the “billionaires club” for a long time, The low- no growth charts show when so called “free trade” (free trade is a code word for one way trade to the oligarchs) policies, the internet, and social media took over…They are the real bullies, not Trump who is not the most articulate but still standing up the oligarchs bully control of everything as world control dominance.(hegemony). Why do you think that people like Michael Bloomenthal is voting democratic is because he wants No change to Wall St. regulation and has paid dearly for that Not to happen. Many people just don’t get or see what is really happening to our country, politics and Trump’s effort to make the many necessary changes to bring Balanced Trade- jobs opportunity, national security and proper vetting of all immigrants. Although I do think Trump is wrong on climate change we still need him as president because HRC will not be able to bring any of these badly needed changed being a bought and paid for insider…One must remember two things. You cannot solve a problem with the very same people who created them. And The oligarchs pay people who pay other people to do their dirty work. These are two facts of life that will never change…IMHO.
Joseph Stieglitz said the other day that the average wage for American workers is exactly where it was 42 years ago. Charts I have seen (which I can’t copy) chart the incomes of workers from 1975 to the present. The bottom 2 quintiles are nearly flat – they are on life support. The middle quintile shows a gentle rise in the road. The 4th shows the driving up a small hill. For the 5th quintile they are driving uphill to the Continental Divide. For the top 1% — and especially the top 15 of the top 1% — it’s the trajectory of an F-16 shooting into the sky. This the evidence since 1975. It is a structural problem. And since all legislation is, in effect, social engineering – passed to accomplish a specific goal – the problem is also political.
Bernie said this a long time ago, and it was bolstered by a “60 Minutes” report a few months ago, that politicians from both parties and from both bodies of Congress, spend 2/3 of their time dialing for dollars. A law was passed outlawing seeking political contributions from their offices in the Capitol building. Both parties promptly built two huge buildings right across the street so these guys could dial for dollars from there. In the election cycle in 2014, the money spent in Senate races in OH and VA totaled $100 million – in each race. Bloomberg was elected mayor of NYC three times. In each race he spent $100 million of his own money.
The first instinct of politicians is self-survival. The first thought on the morning after their election is “how can I do this next time.” When big money is required to get reelected, promises are made whether implicitly or explicitly. This is legalized bribery. So what will be their primarily motivation – to serve big money or to address structural inequalities in the economy?
Since Citizens United, the problem has worsened. Unless you happen to be a working person with $10,000 in your pocket to contribute, when you call your “representative” you’ll be put on hold. If you gave $500,000, your representative will run to the phone.
For working people in this country, they can’t say how exactly – it’s the Mexicans, it’s ISIS, it’s the lazy poor, it’s the blacks – but the see every day, every year, how politicians simply don’t give a damn about their interests – the citizenry! In the meantime, they have come to see how the rich have gotten fabulously richer. When Trump – this limo-riding billionaire – rants and rages, they flock to him simply on an emotional even he taps into their inchoate rage. The only ones I see who are deeply motivated to address these structural inequalities are the likes of Warren and Sanders – and the wind is at their backs.
PT Barnum had a museum of oddities in NYC a way back. One of the popular exhibits was “This Way to Egress.” When folks opened the door to see that exhibit, they found themselves out on the street again, whereupon they either paid to get back in or walked away unsatisfied. Trump is the offspring of Barnum. And anyone who does not perceive that he is a compulsive liar, that he is totally ignorant about how to run a government, that he has not just no comprehension of the Constitution but absolute scorn for it, that his sole concern in the word is to exalt himself, that he is a raging ego without a soul, has surrendered all reason.
first of all, i agree with you mostly…
but i may have missed the “what to do about it” part of your comments.
i could be wrong, but my experience with both the right and the left makes me think that you aren’t going to get anywhere just by electing someone who tells the left what they want to hear. though it may be important NOT to elect someone who tells the right what they want to hear.
in particular, i don’t think you get anywhere by “tax the rich” rhetoric. in the first place, the rich will fight you and they are stronger than you are. in the second place there are better, smarter, ways to get what the workers need:
even the rich don’t like to be robbed. so proposals to regulate behaviors by businesses that are essentially criminal could get some political traction even among the rich, even among the racists.
i am not optimistic enough to think this would be the answer to everything, or that i have a hope in hell of convincing anyone on “the left,” i only offer it as an alternative to the children’s crusade thinking of the leftish activists.
in the long run, you will have to “tax the rich” because they are the ones who have the money. but you need to appeal to their patriotism. not tell them you are going to take their money and give it to the poor.
you might take their money and build infrastructure while giving jobs at good wages to the poor… but i think i heard somewhere above that that “won’t work.” there are people on our side who can only think in terms of robbing the rich. whatever else it might be, it’s not good politics.
oh, with respect to your comment above “is this bullying?”
i think if you look at the definition in the post you will see that it is not.
it may be blustering. it may even be insanity, but it is not bullying.
There are 3 types of bullying. You may not think he does physical bullying, but he is threatening violence if he loses Florida. You haven’t seen the chaos he is capable of yet. You have to see where he is going and how it will snowball into more.
My sole focus is to make sure Donald Trump never sits in the Oval Office.
Ms57 thanks for your thoughtful reply to me but I still favor the Trumper over the Clintons because I feel that he has stronger capability,more power of character and integrity and will be able to do more to get the right things done we all need doing…Correction above I said Michael Blumenthal, I meant Michael Bloomberg…P.S. You don’t want to miss the enlightening video on the Wall St from Michael Lewis at WallStreetonParade.com
William, we need to look at the intention behind that power. Trump has personal interests. He is impatient. He is a sore-loser and likes to stick it to others. He is divisive. He says other have to pay their bills like NATO, while he does not pay his bills.
I do not vote personality. I vote substance. Hillary and everyone around her has substance for working together.
On the other hand, the people around Trump are afraid of disagreeing with him. Maybe you see that as power of character, but his character does not have healthy substance. It’s like the leader of North Korea. People are afraid of disagreeing with him. Do you like his power of character?
This is who you’re voting for, brother.
On August 8, 2015, after Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) was interrupted by two activists at a campaign event in Seattle, Donald Trump weighed in on the incident. “That will never happen with me,” Trump said. “I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if others will, but that was a disgrace.”
In Feb. 2016, Trump was interrupted by a protester at a rally in Las Vegas the night before the Nevada caucuses. As the man was escorted out, Trump told the crowd, “I’d like to punch him in the face.”
In Nov. 2015, Trump instructed security to eject a Black Lives Matter protester from a campaign event in Birmingham, Alabama. “Get him the hell out of here, will you please?” Trump asked. “Get him out of here. Throw him out!” The protester was shoved by the police out of the venue and heckled by Trump supporters, who shouted, “Get the fuck out of here, man,” and “Tase him!” Following the altercation, Trump went on Fox News and said, “Maybe [the protester] should have been roughed up, because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.”
In Dec. 2015, at an event in North Carolina, Trump was interrupted no fewer than 10 times by different protesters, many of whom shouted, “Black lives matter.” Trump responded by waving them off and dismissing their concerns, as boos rained down from his supporters. “These are not people,” Trump said. “Just remember that.”
On March 1, 2016, the same night that Trump became the overwhelming favorite to clinch the GOP nomination, a woman was attacked at a Trump rally in Louisville, Kentucky. Shiya Nwanguma, who was engaged in a silent protest, was hit, pushed, and verbally assaulted by people in the crowd. She and other activists briefly held up signs as Trump spoke, before they were confronted by other audience members. “I was called a nigger and a cunt. They pushed and shoved me.”
In March 2016, Wednesday, a black protester named Rakeem Jones was punched in the face by a Trump supporter. The supporter, 78-year-old John McGraw, defended his actions by claiming that Jones may have been affiliated with ISIS. McGraw vaguely threatened, “The next time we see him, we may have to kill him.” When asked about Jones’s assault, Trump responded by calling McGraw “a very passionate person.”
Etc., etc., etc.
If you think Trump has any serious desire or plan to address the overwhelming power of Wall Street or confront the oligarchy, read this:
“Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., asked Ohio Gov. John Kasich if he was interested in being the vice presidential candidate, telling a Kasich adviser that the governor would become the most powerful vice president in history, according to an unnamed Kasich adviser cited by the New York Times.
The Times’ Robert Draper reported:
But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?
When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.
Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?
“Making America great again” was the casual reply.”
probably a good idea
but sometimes “sole focus” makes it hard to see alternative strategies that might work better.
it is probably too late at this stage in this election cycle, or maybe even the next, but at some point it would be wise to focus on what it is that drives trumps supporters.
even “racism” has roots in economic fear and a culture of bullying. not all bullying in this society is done by “racists.” a lot of it is done by banks. (and, in my experience, schools.)
we are not going to have a sane society if we can’t manage to have a just one… and that works for both races.
it has always been a case of the haves and the have nots, with the haves dividing the have nots into factions that hate and fear each other. in this country some of the have nots think they are haves and are afraid of you.
I have no doubt Trump is a bully and would inaugurate a culture of bullying. But the words quoted by Ms were not bullying. They were bluster. Sometimes those bullied resort to bluster as an attempted defense against bullying.
I suspect that most bullies are people who have been bullied. This is not necessarily true of their leaders who may only be people skilled at manipulating the fears and hate of those who have been bullied.
I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say Trump’s people are afraid to disagree with him in the same way Koreans are afraid to disagree with their Leader.
On the other hand, as I have seen, some people seem to be attracted to people who bully them. Perhaps they see him as a protector against other bullies. Perhaps they only see him as giving them the chance to bully others. (Which seems to be a predictable if not “basic” drive among humans.)
Racism is defined as “the belief that one’s own race is superior to another.” I understand how the powerful play one or another “minority” off each other to “divide and conquer,” an effort for the powerful to maintain power, but racism itself is not rooted in economic fear but in race hatred. The GOP has become, in its present incarnation, a White Nationalist political party. In this regard, there can be no compromise with his supporters.
To the extent that Trump’s supporters are indeed motivated by economic fear, a steady diminution in wealth, income and living standards, I feel a deep sympathy. These are not just perceptions on their part but actual reality. They see it; they know it. There a ton of people, whether they are of the left or of the right – huge numbers of citizens – who have legitimate complaints that absolutely must be addressed. But they can only be properly addressed by anyone but Trump. My comments are not addressed to his supporters but to that egomaniacal, ignorant creep himself. There is only one person who stands between him and the White House, and he must never, ever be allowed to sit in the Oval Office.
To reduce Trump’s comments to the level of bluster is to ignore actual physical assaults on protestors. That is no longer bluster. As he acts, so shall he govern. The greatest danger when facing an authoritarian demagogue who threatens the constitutional order is not to take him seriously. When Trump says, “If there’s voter fraud [i.e., if I lose], this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government,” you’d better take him seriously.
nevertheless, the comments were not “bullying” according to the definition presented here.
moreover, i don’t ask you to compromise with racism, but to find a better strategy to deal with it than frontal assault.
“racism”… that is the response of fear and aggression toward the “other” is probably a biological fact of life. you can hope to “educate” people not to see each other as “other,” but not by confrontation.
(Warning: I’m going to use some caps here which are not meant to be aggressive towards you but to reflect my astonishment at the futility of the exercise, but)
Have you ever tried TALKING to a racist? There is absolutely no reasoning with them, no grounds to conduct a rational conversation. Hatred is an emotion — racists hate! — and there’s no way to discuss it. It’s like trying to talk your daughter out of loving the biker she’s fallen for. “Honey, he traffics methamphetamine, been to prison twice and has murdered 12 people.” “But Dad, I love him.”
no ve can’t be arguing vis dese people
but we can talk to them about other things.
of course some people you can’t talk to at all about anything.
i have never been afraid of capitals.
EL you flatter me in that you think that HRC and everyone around her has Substance? Obviously you and I must have different meaning and definitions and interpretations of “substance”. Although I admire your work and many posts on economic graphs and trends you have made it clear to me that you do not know what “substance” means in a political or moral sense of personal integrity. To you and Ms57 does it not matter to you that we have a president that has personal integrity? Or is it ok with you to have a president of “smoke and mirrors” policies of lies and deception? HRC problems are far worse than that of Trumps inability to cleverly articulate. He will learn this (political correctness) thing much faster than you can teach a pathological liar not to lie. HRC and Obama have only been doing the dirty work of the global oligarchs from day one and we do not need more of the same weak leadership that panders to them…Wake up bros…
I’m glad you wrote back because I was thinking about your comments. I have a couple of comments which may seem critical but in no way are intended to be personal.
First, I am very, very critical of HRC – have been for a long time, continue to be so, for many of the reasons you outline and more. If you need any more background material on why this is so, read below, which I found this morning.
He’s right, in every way. But one thing I learned long ago: man, if you’re looking for a “political or moral sense of personal integrity” in professional politicians, you’re wandering in a wasteland. My first vote was for Jimmy Carter. I feel great pride in having cast that vote, and an even greater pride in what he has done for the 35 years since. The only other politician for whom I feel the same pride in supporting is Bernie, and I will continue to support him in every endeavor. One of the progressives he asked his supporters to help is a woman in WA named Pramila Jayapal. She won her primary yesterday and I was thrilled this morning to read it – wrote her a note saying I’m with her all the way.
Everyone always says, this election is different – the most important election blahblahblah. But this the only election in my lifetime, in fact the only election in at least the last 150 years of American history, where those words are true.
Donald Trump is an ignorant sociopath with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The most significant persistent delusion I have heard is “he will learn, “he will change.” Most people only learn or change when they recognize they don’t know or need to change, which are among the very many things Trump is entirely unable to do. He is an authoritarian; every comment he ever utters is about “strong leadership,” ad nauseum. Any leader who stands before a free and democratic people and proclaims “I alone can fix it” doesn’t understand freedom, has no respect for democracy and should be chased out of town tied to the bottom of a horse. To think that Trump has ever spent a single moment thinking about the “global oligarchy” is pure delusion. To think he ever spends a single moment thinking about the needs of others is pure delusion. To think he’ll ever build a wall, get the Mexicans to pay for it, round up 11 million undocumented workers or ban all Muslims from entering the country is proof of his detachment from reality. The great tragedy for his supporters is they believe him. The great evil of Trump is he so nonchalantly and self-servingly uses them for his own aims – one of the standards by which sociopathy is defined.
I’m voting against Trump. He cannot be allowed within 100 miles of the Oval Office. He is a menace to the Republic and a profound threat to the constitutional order. If he’s elected, you can forget about any hope of addressing the rise of the Corporate State. For all her faults, and because she is a professional politician, HRC is susceptible to political pressure, and the growing power of people like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren – and Pramila Jayapal – will pressure her no end.
I think a vote for Trump is a vote for an egomaniacal, unpredictable sociopath. There is no choice.
i ‘d go a step further. It’s not so much what Trump is, but what his supporters are: They COULD simply be ignorant of the causes of things and hope that Trump can do something about the evils in Washington.
But… and you have identified this… they are also people who believe that violence is the way to get things done in a Democracy. They are, in fact, the same psychology as the people who supported Hitler. And the people who supported lynching.
I have no doubt that there are people on the Left who would act the same if they had the power, but today in America the danger is from the Right. We cannot afford to encourage these people to believe their violence is the way to get things done. Hopefully we can do that without violent means ourselves.
As far as I can tell, even if HIllary is the same as all the other politicians who have been running things in this country, at least things will be no worse with her president than they have been. That should mean that the left can keep trying to make things better. If they could actually move the people to make themselves heard… they might have a chance.
(Glad to see you’re back on the caps.)
You are absolutely right.
In the run up to the nomination: “If I lose, I think you’d have riots,” Trump told CNN about losing the nomination in a contested convention. “I think you’d have riots. I think bad things would happen. I really do. I believe that. I wouldn’t lead it, but I think bad things would happen.”
In the run up to the election: “If I lose Florida, we will know that there’s voter fraud. If there’s voter fraud, this election will be illegitimate, the election of the winner will be illegitimate, we will have a constitutional crisis, widespread civil disobedience, and the government will no longer be the government.’” He also promised a “bloodbath” if the Democrats attempted to “steal” the election.
That’s what he thinks a President does?
Want to talk about a constitutional crisis?
(Coberly, this is off point but I think you’ll find this interesting.)
i can’t tell if you are agreeing with me or think that i am disagreeing with you.
I think Trump — Trumpism — is dangerous.
I also think we need to be careful not to fight fire with fire.
As for capitals. Sometimes I use them for emphasis, I certainly don’t feel shouted at when someone else uses them. Of if they are shouting, I don’t think that is a sin. I often use no-caps because it’s easier to type. Once in a while it seems to interfere with the readers ability, or willingness, to understand what I am trying to say, so I go back to standard usage… for a while. These are not things I think anyone ought to waste moral energy worrying about.
nope, fully agreeing and kidding about the caps.
I prefer this definition of RACISM: “a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.”
There are certainly differences in the races. What do we have now — THREE non-Blacks who have run 100m in less than ten seconds? What is the racial make-up of the NBA? The NFL? Bone mineral density in Blacks in higher than in Whites, and Blacks have higher body protein content. Are Blacks, then, physically superior to Whites? Is it racist to say so?