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Open thread April 19, 2016

Dan Crawford | April 19, 2016 5:27 am

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  • Denis Drew says:
    April 19, 2016 at 9:12 am

    A thought just starting to germinate in my mind: you know how in Chicago our political parties used to pay citizens $10-20 to vote. First, I thought of getting out the African-American vote — and I’m thinking 99% — by pointing out that if they all voted they would benefit thousands of dollars a year in government paybacks.

    I started out thinking African-American because they are so classically left out of so much government concern whether it’s second-class schools, unconscionable medical care (I went to Stroger emergency once before I got Medicare — practically in the heart of downtown here — so-called “fast track” was 10 hours, for chest pain, difficulty breathing and obstetrics; everyone else waited 24 hours, maybe should sign in and come back tomorrow), lead in the water, intrusive policing, etc., etc.

    Then I thought of 99% African-American voting as donating one hour of time to a movement every two years — to get the politicians coming on their knees to find out what people want. Seems like an irresistible appeal, doesn’t it? Donate one hour of your time, change your whole world for yourself and your family.

    50% voting is getting them nothing (well the Post Office delivers). !00% would raise such a “scary” political organization specter that it could have the effect of 150%.

    Then of course other minorities or whomever would follow suit. One way to take the country back from the oligarchs. Just starting to germinate.

  • Denis Drew says:
    April 19, 2016 at 9:14 am

    Forgot to add above: Imagine everybody wearing an “I gave one hour” button? Could sweep the country.

  • EMichael says:
    April 19, 2016 at 9:32 am

    As voting starts in NY I have one thought.

    Perhaps now people who have registered as Independent now realize how they have taken themselves out of the democratic process. I guess in the 70s or 80s that declaration was understandable, but after the Gingrich years it is truly baffling.

    Course, it does give you the chance to rant against all politicians(“lesser evil”, etc.) and to a degree might pump up your ego(“I judge on the issues’ not parties”, etc.), but the cost is that you have lost your impact on the election, especially in states that have closed primaries.

    And you chose to do so.

    Amazing.

  • JackD says:
    April 19, 2016 at 10:08 am

    EMichael: Interestingly, Independents in closed primary systems resent the fact that they are not allowed to vote in the primaries of parties they have rejected.

  • EMichael says:
    April 19, 2016 at 11:54 am

    Scary, isn’t it?

    Especially when there really are not independent voters. The vast majority of them always vote for the same party when they vote.

    But saying they are independent gives them the abilities I mentioned and also allows them to stand on the sidelines and yell at the players on the filed for not doing a good job. Course, they;ll never step on that field………

  • Marko says:
    April 19, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    The Empire Files: Abby Martin Exposes What Hillary Clinton Really Represents

    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=16150

    Our next president – such a sweetie.

    Congratulations , morons.

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