Responsibility for Murder? I Do Not Recall a Deluge of Threats Coming from Dems
The murder of a fellow human being is not acceptable (period). Prof. Heather has a good take on what took place and want has been said.
September 12, 2025
Since a gunman murdered right-wing activist Charlie Kirk at an outdoor event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, both social media circles and the political sphere have been alight with accusations that “the Left” was responsible for the shooting. Prominent right-wing social media accounts called the Democratic Party “a domestic terror organization” and declared “WAR.” Billionaire Elon Musk posted:
“The Left is the party of murder.”
From the Oval Office, President Donald J. Trump blamed the shooting on “the radical left” and vowed to “find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity, and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country.”
Without any information about the shooter, the media got in on the game, with the Wall Street Journal reporting yesterday that “[a]mmunition engraved with transgender and antifascist ideology was found inside the rifle authorities believe was used in Kirk’s shooting.” Bomb threats targeted Democratic politicians—primarily Black politicians—and historically Black colleges and universities (HBCUs).
Condemnation of the shooting was widespread. Perhaps eager to distance themselves from accusations that anyone who does not support MAGA endorses political violence, commenters portrayed Kirk as someone embracing the reasoned debate central to democracy, although he became famous by establishing a database designed to dox professors who expressed opinions he disliked so they would be silenced (I am included on this list).
Meanwhile, it was not clear the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was up to the task of finding the killer. FBI director Kash Patel and deputy director Dan Bongino were both MAGA influencers without law enforcement experience when Trump put them in charge of the agency. Once there, they focused on purging the agency of those they considered insufficiently loyal to Trump or “DEI hires.” In early August, they forced out the leader of the Salt Lake City, Utah, field office, Mehtab Syed, a decorated female Pakistani American counterterrorism agent.
Meanwhile, David J. Bier of the Cato Institute reported that one in five FBI agents have been diverted from their jobs to conduct immigration raids with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and just hours before the shooting, three former top officials at the FBI filed a lawsuit against Patel, the FBI, Attorney General Pam Bondi, the Department of Justice, and the president accusing them of unlawfully politicizing the FBI, purging it of anyone who had ever worked on a criminal investigation of Trump. The lawsuit suggests Bongino had an “intense focus on [using] his social media profiles to change his followers’ perceptions of the FBI.”
As Quinta Jurecic reported today in The Atlantic, hours after the shooting, Patel’s personal social media account posted a picture of himself and Kirk; minutes later, Patel’s official FBI account posted that the shooter was already in custody and then, an hour and a half later, said the suspect had been released. Both Patel and Bongino appeared to be focused more on posting than on doing the work to find the shooter.
This morning, Trump announced on the Fox News Channel’s Fox & Friends that he had just heard “they have the person that they wanted.” That person turned out to be 22-year-old Utah native Tyler Robinson, who turned himself in to authorities after his father urged him to. Robinson’s parents are registered Republicans; he was not affiliated with a political party and was an inactive voter. Over the past years, Robinson’s mother posted a number of pictures of him and his brothers posing with guns.
Robinson had recently had a conversation with a family member about why they didn’t like Kirk’s viewpoints. Robinson appears to have admired the “Groypers,” led by Nick Fuentes, who complain that more mainstream organizations like Kirk’s Turning Point USA are not “pro-white” enough and have publicly harassed Kirk in the past.
Allison Gill of The Breakdown explained that the rumors the shooter had engraved anti-fascist rhetoric on some of the bullet casings found at the scene turned out to be a misunderstanding of terms from the video game Helldivers2. The claim that he had used “transgender ideology” was apparently a misreading of the headstamp “TRN” that marks ammunition as the product of Turkish manufacturer Turan.
Almost as soon as Robinson was identified, the tone of MAGA leader’s conversation about the shooting changed. Representative Nancy Mace (R-SC), who had used a slur to refer to the shooter as pro-transgender, posted on social media:
“We know Charlie Kirk would want us to pray for such an evil, and lost individual like Tyler Robinson to find Jesus Christ. We will try to do the same.”
For his part, Trump seemed to have lost interest in Kirk even earlier. Yesterday evening, a reporter offered the president his condolences on the loss of his friend Kirk and asked Trump how he was holding up. The president answered, in full: “I think very good. And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they’ve been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years, and it’s going to be a beauty. It’ll be an absolutely magnificent structure. And I just see all the trucks. We just started so it’ll get done very nicely and it’ll be one of the best anywhere in the world, actually. Thank you very much.”
The day of Kirk’s murder, Russia sent 19 drones into Poland—some armed and some unarmed—testing the strength of the neighboring country. With the help of allies, Poland shot down four of them. Poland belongs to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), with whom the U.S. shares a mutual defense agreement meaning that if it is attacked, we will come to its aid. After the attack, Poland called an emergency meeting of the North Atlantic Council, the primary political decision-making body within NATO. U.S. Ambassador to NATO Matthew Whitaker apparently did not attend.
Although Kaja Kallas, the European Union’s high representative for foreign affairs and security policy, called the violation “intentional, not accidental,” Trump told reporters that Russia’s sending of drones into Poland “could’ve been a mistake.” Josh Kovensky of Talking Points Memo reported on Tuesday that on August 27, the Trump administration returned a plane full of Russian dissidents seeking asylum in the U.S. to Moscow, where at least some of them went directly from the plane into custody.
Today, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte and Supreme Allied Commander Europe General Alexus G. Grynkewich announced that NATO is launching “Eastern Sentry,” an operation to bolster NATO’s defense against Russian incursions along NATO’s eastern flank. In what appeared to be an attempt to calm NATO allies’ concerns about Trump’s “mistake” comment, acting U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Dorothy Shea told the United Nations Security Council today the U.S. will “defend every inch of NATO territory.” “The United States stands by our NATO allies in the face of these alarming airspace violations,” she said.
If the U.S. is weakening ties to traditional defensive alliances, it is attempting to flex its muscles by going after alleged drug dealers with a newly dubbed “Department of War.” On September 2, Trump announced the U.S. had struck a boat he claimed was carrying drugs to the U.S., killing 11 civilians he claimed were “Tren de Aragua Narco terrorists.” The administration posted a video of the operation online.
From the start, legal specialists noted that the U.S. made the strike without legal authority. Trump simply claimed the power to kill men he claimed were a danger to the U.S., advancing the argument that drug smuggling is the same thing as an imminent military attack on the U.S. and thus the laws of war are in force. Yesterday, that argument got even weaker when Charlie Savage and Helene Cooper of the New York Times reported that the men on the boat appeared to have been spooked by the military hardware over them and turned back to shore. “If someone is retreating, where’s the ‘imminent threat’ then?” Rear Admiral Donald J. Guter, a retired top judge advocate general for the Navy from 2000 to 2002, said to the reporters.
Today, Trump announced he was sending the National Guard not into Chicago, Illinois, where Mayor Brandon Johnson and Governor J.B. Pritzker have mounted strong opposition, but to Memphis, Tennessee. The Memphis Police Department noted:
“Overall crime is at a 25-year low, with robbery, burglary, and larceny also reaching 25-year lows. Murder is at a six-year low, aggravated assault at a five-year low, and sexual assault at a twenty-year low” in the city.
Although Trump said he had the support of the mayor and the governor, Shelby County mayor Lee Harris asked Republican governor Bill Lee to “please reconsider, if this is on the table.” He said local government would welcome more state troopers to help fight crime, but “to have individuals with military fatigues, semi-automatic weapons and armored vehicles patrolling our streets is way too far, anti-democratic and anti-American.”
Lee released a statement saying he was set to speak with Trump about a “strategic mission” to use state law enforcement more effectively with an already established FBI mission in Memphis.
Meanwhile, yesterday four out of five justices on a panel of the Brazilian Supreme Court found former president Jair Bolsonaro, a close ally of Donald Trump, guilty of plotting a coup, attempting to overturn the country’s 2022 election, and committing violent acts against state institutions. They sentenced him to 27 years and three months in prison.

That pretty well sums it up. Personally, I would like to chime in with the notion that not only was the shooter a Groyper, but he shot Kirk to get the media attention off the Epstein files and our pedophile in chief. I have as much evidence for that as folks like Derrick Van Orden calling for a civil war against Democrats or Trump’s raging about lunatic leftist radicals and calling for criminal prosecution of folks like George Soros. Trump and the GOP are trying to make this a burning of the Reichstag moment, but the shooter does not fit their narrative. Meanwhile who cares if the United States is now killing random people on the high seas.
Statements from prominent Democrats on Kirk shooting. . .
Former President Barack Obama: Stated on X that “this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy”.
Former President Joe Biden: Posted that “There is no place in our country for this kind of violence” and that he and Jill were praying for Kirk’s family.
Former President Bill Clinton: Expressed sadness and anger, hoping for introspection and a redoubling of efforts for peaceful debate.
Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi: Condemned the shooting as “reprehensible” and stated that political violence has no place in the nation.
Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer: Emphasized that violence is an affliction on America and that people should come together rather than pointing fingers.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries: Stated that political violence of any kind is unacceptable and incompatible with American values.
Former Vice President Kamala Harris: Wrote on X that she was “deeply disturbed” and that political violence has no place in America, urging unity to prevent further violence.
Former Representative Gabrielle Giffords: Expressed being “horrified” and stated that while democratic societies have disagreements, violence should never be used to confront them.
California Governor Gavin Newsom: Condemned the attack as “disgusting, vile, and reprehensible” and called on Americans to reject political violence.
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro: Called the attack “horrifying” and said this type of violence “cannot be allowed in our society”.
Statements from prominent Republicans Kirk shooting. . .
President Donald Trump: Stated he was “filled with grief and anger at the heinous assassination” and blamed the “radical left,” vowing accountability.
Vice President JD Vance: Honored his eight-year friendship with Kirk and credited him with a key role in the Trump-Vance campaign.
Former President George W. Bush: Called for purging “Violence and vitriol from the public square,” emphasizing that political opponents are fellow citizens.
House Speaker Mike Johnson: Described Kirk as a “close friend” and called for political leaders to loudly decry violence and “turn the heat down a little bit”.
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise: Stated that “we cannot let what happened yesterday be the norm” and that differences should be solved “at the ballot box”.
Senator Mike Lee (Utah): Called the murder “a cowardly act of violence” and praised Kirk as an “American patriot”.
Governor Spencer Cox (Utah): Expressed heartbreak and stated they were working with law enforcement. He later blamed social media for polarization and urged people to log off.
Representative Nancy Mace (South Carolina): Claimed that “Democrats own what happened today” and that those who disagree with the left are at risk.
Representative Anna Paulina Luna (Florida): Blamed Democrats, claiming their rhetoric caused the shooting.
Representative Chip Roy (Texas): Stated the murder “changes some things” and blamed the shooting on a country turning its back on faith.
Funny how the establishment media typically claims that law enforcement is “looking for a motive” immediately in the aftermath of a shooting. But then it’s rare to have one actually reported. So how can opinion influencers lay blame without even having established the motive?.
As is common practice in both social media and establishment media, getting the narrative right trumps getting the facts right.
John H:
It is simple. You do not get to shoot anyone whether Repub or Dem. Black or white. etc. Right or wrong. Motive or no motive.
What about mental illness as an underlying cause for many shootings? It doesn’t seem to fit the narrative. It might result in calls for gun control and more mental health services. Worse yet, attributing blame to mental illness might deprive bloviating politicians from assigning blame to their favorite bogeymen. And so, the media just avoids reporting motivation/cause altogether.
@John,
Other industrialized nations have the same rates of mental illness as the US* but only a fraction of the shootings. So it’s absurd to blame mental illness for the high rates of shootings in the US. On the other hand, the per capita gun ownership rates in the US are higher than in other industrialized nations. The most parsimonious explanation is too many guns.
The media I see focus on motivation all the time, sometimes before the evidence is in. The media in America are mostly corporate and conservative.
*unless you consider ammosexuality to be a form of mental illness; ammosexuality rates are higher in the US than in other industrialized nations.
@John,
Funny how Trump and his lickspittles typically claim Democrats and “the left” are to blame immediately in the aftermath of a shooting. How can they lay blame without even having established the motive?.
As is common practice in the GOP, getting the narrative right trumps getting the facts right.