COVID vaccine rules added in contentious meeting

Which is BS.

Hmmm. It appears what came rather easily in the past is now going to be made more difficult due to political interests rather than scientific knowledge on the issue of Covid vaccines. This has come rather easily in the past. And now, I need a prescription? Did Covid go away? No. It is still prevalent.

I am not sure how much of this will play out. Too much of it is due to political interests and control. For sure neither Kennedy or Trump will be at your funeral.

If you do not want the vaccination? I really do not give a damn. I believe in the science so I will advocate for it. I will not attend your funeral.

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“CDC’s vaccine advisers add COVID vaccine rules in contentious meeting,” Health News @ NPR

A panel of vaccine advisers to the federal government debated several changes to COVID-19 vaccine access in a chaotic meeting Friday, marked by confusion over processes, technical difficulties and passionate disagreement among members and other experts in attendance.

Ultimately, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP, backed away from its most controversial proposal that called for states to require those who want a COVID-19 vaccine to get a prescription. But the end result is that the COVID-19 vaccine could be less available than it has been the last few years.

The group, which crafts recommendations on vaccine policy for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, voted to recommend vaccination for adults 65 and older and younger people, subject to a process called “shared decision making.” Their recommendations would not prohibit anyone over six months from getting the shot, but call for patients to speak with a clinician about the risks and benefits.

Jen Kates, director of global health and HIV policy at KFF.: “In the prior seasons of COVID, we’ve had routine vaccine access — you or I could go to our pharmacy or doctor’s office and just get our vaccine. It was encouraged as a routine recommendation.”

Friday’s vote essentially says “this is no longer routinely recommended — it’s ‘shared clinical decision-making,'” The details about what that entails and how access will play out are not immediately clear. What is clear is that it’s a “more narrow recommendation” than it has been in past years.

And ACIP’s recommendation states that for people 64 and younger the conversation should emphasize that benefits are greatest for people with the most risk of serious disease and lowest for people without increased risk.

The advisers also voted that the CDC should add information about the possible risks and uncertainties related to COVID vaccine effectiveness to information sheets about the shots. Many of the risks were speculative or already known to be unfounded.

Heated debate and a tie vote

The gathering underscored the turbulent and highly politicized nature of vaccine policy under Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s leadership, which is now at odds with positions held by major medical organizations.

The recommendation that a prescription be required for anyone to get a COVID vaccine – which could have been a new hurdle in many places, if states adopted the recommendation – ended in a tie. ACIP chairman Martin Kulldorff voted no, breaking the tie. The motion failed.

“If we start asking for prescriptions for vaccines — which are a primary prevention public health strategy, we are going to overwhelm physicians’ offices.”

Plus, they are going to want to be paid.

Committee members also expressed their concern, saying it would create access problems especially for people who are underinsured or don’t have primary care providers.

Committee member Dr. Joseph Hibbeln: “I am also concerned as it is my understanding that approximately 30% of Americans don’t have access readily to primary health care providers.”

Some of those he chose have a history of being critical of vaccines, as does Kennedy himself. He once called COVID-19 vaccines a “crime against humanity.” Kennedy’s ACIP was widely expected to curb access to the COVID booster.

Over the course of the meeting, many clinicians in attendance raised concerns about how ACIP had sidelined expert input, elevated questionable or preliminary data, and broken from the established process for developing these recommendations, which influence insurance coverage.

Dr. Sandra Fryhofer speaking on behalf of the American Medical Association on Friday “It’s troubling to see the erosion of the committee’s integrity, We’re concerned about how vaccine recommendations are being developed by this new panel, data is being selectively used to justify specific conclusions.” 

In a break from past precedent, the voting topics for the COVID vaccine were not shared publicly until the end of the meeting, when ACIP member Retsef Levi, an MIT professor of operations management, presented them. Several outside medical groups in attendance had requested that they be shared for the sake of transparency.

Levi led much of the discussion leading up the votes on COVID-19. In his comments, he emphasized safety concerns about the vaccines. He told the panel.

“I don’t think that the public currently believes the narrative of safe and effective.”

The meeting was marked by disorganization and confusion, even among the voting members. During the vote on individual decision making, Dr. Cody Meissner, asked what it would mean in practice?

Levi said yes, that would be the change. “We suggest that the content will be changed. The CDC will have to apply their judgment about how to do that exactly, given this suggestion that we are making here.”

Confusion and a patchwork of policies for COVID shots

NPR’s Sydney Lupkin contributed to this report.