Somebody better call DOGE . . .
According to Kevin Drum, the Senate budget resolution earmarks $170 billion for border security; the House budget proposal ponies up $190 billion. 5 minutes of googling was not sufficient to figure out how this unimaginable pile of money will be spent.
Let’s assume half is for deportation. That’s $85 billion, if we go with the more frugal Senate number.
On the one hand, that sure sounds like enough to deport many millions of immigrants. This would be a humanitarian catastrophe and it would very possibly trigger an economic crisis as well. Would Trump really do this? The hateful part of him would love to, but the idiot part of him can sometimes be cautious.
On the other hand, if deportations will be “limited” to the “worst” 1 million people, that’s $85,000 per immigrant. For that amount of money, we could afford to give people due process, but I’m guessing that’s not the plan.
Anyone know what’s going on here?

$170 Billion is what US aid to Ukraine amounted to. We know what that money was intended for (aside from corruption and money laundering back to US sponsors.) Does that give you a clue as to what the money is for?
@John,
In fiscal year 2024, the US federal budget was $6.75 trillion in spending. So $170 billion over the entire course of the war in Ukraine is a tiny fraction of the US spending, and much of that was just surplus and defunct military equipment that the US military wasn’t going to use anyway. So your $170 billion figure is deeply misleading.
Since you brought it up, what’s the dollar amount of corruption and money laundering from Ukrainian aid? Show your work.
The Republicans have already triggered an economic catastrophe. This immigrant plan is just going to add to it.
JohnH is correct. I also think money numbers like this come with no specific plan. It’s just more of their simple-minded thinking regarding spending and budgeting: State a goal or action and add a dollar amount to it. We’ll get to the details just as soon as the outside group whose idea it is gives us the plan.
@Becker,
If DOGE cared about “efficiency” and attacking “waste, fraud and abuse,” they would hire and deploy accountants to review spending and budgeting before making cuts.
The $190 Billion is an increase in spending for the Southern Border. Times has it at $200 billion now.
The Russian Trump does not give a damn about Ukraine. He kneels to Putin. New York Times this broke out the proposed budget for now. The funds of ~ #190 billion are going to the southern border to prevent people of another color and origin in Mexico and out of the US.
Immigrations and Customs Enforcement plus US Customs and Border Protection.
Where do you get your dribble from Gnu?
Why are people flocking from Florida in record numbers?
“Florida has been one of the fastest-growing states. More than 22 million people live here, but a record number of people left the state in 2023.
According to the Florida Chamber of Commerce’s latest migration report, more than half a million people left the state last year, the most Florida has ever seen. It was the second-most in the country in 2023, behind California. The average age of people leaving Florida is 32.
The report says the “perception of limited career opportunities for younger, early-career workers” and rising housing costs are the two key factors leading to younger people leaving the state.
Residents left Florida for states like Tennessee and North Carolina, which offer more affordable living options, the report said.
While a record number of people left Florida last year, the report says nearly 637,000 people moved to the state from across the country. People 60 and older were the biggest age group moving here.”
Since Republicans are chasing all the immigrants out of the country, look forward to a shortage of labor. Indeed, baby Boomers are aging out. Birth rate for couples is at 1.6.
“Population growth will slow over the next three decades. In the next 10 years, the yearly growth rate in the United States will be on average, 0.4% but then it slows down on average to 0.1% between 2036 and 2055, the budget office said.
The overall yearly growth rate over the next three decades, 0.2%, is projected to be less than a quarter of what it was from 1975 to 2024.
Without immigration, the U.S. population will shrink starting in 2033 in part “because fertility rates are projected to remain too low for a generation to replace itself,” the Congressional Budget Office said.
The reduced projections from last year were the results of a decline in projected fertility rates over 30 years from 1.70 births per woman to 1.60 births per woman and less immigration because of an executive order last June that temporarily suspends asylum processing at the border when U.S. officials deem they are overwhelmed, the budget office said. Replacement happens at a rate of 2.1 births per woman.”
US population projections shrink from last year because of declining birth rates, less immigration
Look, you can not spread misinformation Gnu. I wrote about the US population several times already. The newbies after the Babyboomers and other groups are having fewer kids. You keep booting immigrants out of the US and you will have a Labor problem.