Remembering the Participants of January 6, 2020
Those who were trying to overthrow the United States Government for personal gain.
“When the Senate reconvened at 8 p.m. and the House of Representatives an hour later on January 6, 2020, the proceedings including the objection debates were continued. Some lawmakers who had previously planned to vote with the objectors stood down following the occupation of the Capitol. Plans to challenge a number of states after Arizona were scrapped, as well — but one other objection, to Pennsylvania’s results, also advanced to a vote. Here are the eight senators and 139 representatives who voted to sustain one or both objections.” The 147 Republicans Who Voted to Overturn Election Results, NYT, Karen Yourish, Larry Buchanan and Denise Lu, January 7, 2021.
Steve Brodner, Washington Post, cartoon capturing 117 of the 147 Republican coup caucus House members up for re-election who tried to subvert democracy on January 6, 2021.
Ten Bears
I hope some voters have wised up and shit-can these frauds. In AZ, it does not seem likely. Thanks for the comment.
Well, in some ways this is good news, isn’t it?
What passes for democracy in the US requires a viable two party system.
This Jan 7 business (‘The Big Lie’ and all the associated BS) seems to be a survival issue with the GOP. As in, if you are one of them & you want yer party to be viable you apparently have to accept the lunacy that the FBI (or possibly other branches of the Deep State) are behind Trump’s loss in 2020. Otherwise, the GOP goes under, they think.
Hmmm. Must come up with some other way for the GOP to be viable, that does not mean re-installing a Day-One Dictator out for revenge. That also doesn’t mean throwing the election of the next president into the House of Representatives.
And it had better not involve a third-party/independent run by some other moderate candidate, who would probably just spoil the election in the Electoral College.
@Fred,
“Twenty-five percent of Americans say it is “probably” or “definitely” true that the FBI instigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol”
How does that compare to the percent of Americans who believe in Bigfoot, a flat earth or creationism?
From Wikipedia:
The US has one of the highest levels of public belief in biblical or other religious accounts of the origins of life on earth among industrialized countries.[129] However, according to the Pew Research Center, 62 percent of adults in the United States accept human evolution while 34 percent of adults believe that humans have always existed in their present form. The poll involved over 35,000 adults in the United States. However acceptance of evolution varies per state. For example, the State of Vermont has the highest acceptance of evolution of any other State in the United States. 79% people in Vermont accept human evolution. While Mississippi with 43% has the lowest acceptance of evolution of any US state.[130] [131]
As I have pointed out all too often, the average IQ is locked at 100, which means a lot when it comes to voting.
I have a well-educated elderly friend who was a GOP voter up until recently, will still not pledge to NOT vote that way going forward, is distressed that I have done so and seems to believe the GOP can still win this thing this year.
As much as he says he will not vote for the Return of Trump.
Having lived two-thirds of my life in Massachusetts, I take comfort in the fact that we have a legislature made up of 85% Dems. In all of New England, there is only one GOP member in Congress (Sen Susan Collins, Maine).
MA is unlikely to be sending electoral votes to the GOP this year. But NH & possibly one from Maine (which allocates its electoral votes) will.
Which is not to say that there isn’t an undercurrent of Trump support in MA. There is some.
Fred:
Collins worries about chalking up her sidewalk and calls the police for “the defacement of Public Property.”
‘IQ’ may indeed average at 100, but I’m not so sure that’s an accurate measure of education, or wisdom
@Ten,
Exactly. In humans, the traits of high intelligence and good judgment are unlinked. Henry Kissinger is one familiar illustration.
Henry Kissinger was first & foremost a practitioner of good old 19th century Bismarckian RealPolitik.
Prof. Bismarck Goes to Washington: Kissinger on the Job
The Atlantic – December 1969
Twenty-five percent are arguably die-hard GOP supporters who find it necessary to support their party regardless. It may well be latent racism, misplaced patriotism, stubbornness, call it what you want. Even stupidity if you like.
About a decade ago, statistical scientists at my alma-mater RPI calculated that any group that can establish a 10% ‘belief rate’ in any idea whatsover will eventually get their way.
Minority rules: Scientists discover tipping point for the spread of ideas
Social consensus through the influence of committed minorities.
Joseph Smith and L Ron Hubbard proved definitively you can pull a whole belief system out of your hat and make it work
GOP voters – take heart!
CNN’s inaugural Road to 270 shows Trump in a position to win the White House
CNN – Jan 5
CNN’s inaugural “Road to 270” electoral map
… shows President Joe Biden struggling to recreate his Electoral College majority from his successful 2020 run and former President Donald Trump with enough states solidly in his corner or leaning in his direction to put him in a position to win the presidency again.
This first look at a potential Biden vs. Trump rematch – and the electoral math each would need to capture 270 electoral votes – captures the dynamics at play 10 months from Election Day. Biden is an incumbent president with stubbornly low approval ratings, persistent questions and concerns about his ability to serve another term, and diminished support from some key components of his winning coalition from 2020.
Trump is a seriously flawed candidate who has promised to govern in undemocratic ways and who has already been rejected once by the American people after serving one term as president. He faces four criminal indictments consisting of 91 charges related to his attempts to overturn the legitimate 2020 election results, his mishandling of classified documents after leaving office and allegedly obstructing law enforcement’s attempts to retrieve them, and his falsifying of business records to conceal a hush payment to keep an adult film star from going public with claims of an extramarital affair, which he denies, in the weeks leading up to the 2016 election. He’s pleaded not guilty to all charges against him and maintained no wrongdoing. …
CNN’s inaugural Road electoral map
If 13 percent of Democrats agree that the “FBI instigated”, I have to wonder if the respondents actually understood the meaning of the word ‘instigated’.
I saw a clip of a guy asking people if Obama was a Keynesian.
@Arne,
“I saw a clip of a guy asking people if Obama was a Keynesian.”
Did they talk about his birth certificate?
Do you suppose that Obama was maybe from Keynesia?
(My all-time favorite president, BTW.)
This probably means that the remaining 87% of Dems, and 70% of independent voters, support Biden. That’s still enough for a popular vote majority of about 60% by my rough calculation. Of course, it will be down to the swing states again for an electoral vote majority.
Given the circumstances specific definitions are moot: big tent there’s more of ‘us’ than there are of ‘them’ ~ they can be overwhelmed. Just have to stand up to them
In my calculation, there are substantially more independent voters than there are in either party. Even if they typically either don’t vote, or choose a major party slate to vote for. Unless some third party-to-be-named later gets in the mix. Maybe that is avoided by Romney/Cheney coming out vocally & forcefully as ‘Republicans for Biden/Harris’.
Background on “fresh water” and “salt water” macroeconomics
Angry Bear – Robert Walmann – January 27, 2009
(Barack Obama, out of Chicago, had some connections to Freshwater economics, also known as The Chicago School.)
… In the US there is a strong correlation between Fresh and Salt and Right and Left. …
An important discriminant is opinions of John Maynard Keynes. Fresh water macroeconomists generally seem to think that he was not a competent economist. Salt water macroeconomists claim (often implausibly) to be in some way his intellectual followers. …
(Easy enough to go to the link, for a post well worth reading.)
FWIW, Austan Goolsbee (was) the chief economist for the President’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board. He is also the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers and a member of the Cabinet.
Goolsbee is on leave from the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business, where he researched tax policy, American industry, technology and innovation as the Robert P. Gwinn Professor of Economics. …
(Currently) Austan Goolsbee is an American economist and writer. He is the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. (wikipedia)
Elsewhere he was said to NOT be a ‘Chicago School’ economist.