It ain’t over, folks
Here we are in a presidential election year, and one of the two major party candidates certain to get the nomination is still claiming the last one was stolen from him. Now, he refers to the criminals who were tried, convicted and sentenced to prison over their Jan 6 crimes as “hostages.” When did the party of “law and order” become the party that attacks the American criminal justice system?
“The ongoing Republican defense of the failed coup means January 6th never really ended. Politically we’re still living in an open-ended January 6th. You can see it every time an elected Republican refuses to admit who won the 2020 election, the refusals to admit that Trump attempted a coup and failed. You have to look long and hard to find an elected Republican who can clearly and honestly answer these simple questions. Because the contrary is a party article of faith. No republic is safe if it contains a major political faction which allows itself to resort to subterfuge and violence if it can’t succeed in a free and fair election.”
January 6th never really ended
“The ongoing Republican defense of the failed coup means January 6th never really ended. Politically we’re still living in an open-ended January 6th. You can see it every time an elected Republican refuses to admit who won the 2020 election, the refusals to admit that Trump attempted a coup and failed. You have to look long and hard to find an elected Republican who can clearly and honestly answer these simple questions. Because the contrary is a party article of faith. No republic is safe if it contains a major political faction which allows itself to resort to subterfuge and violence if it can’t succeed in a free and fair election.”
January 6th never really ended
Please watch J6 tapes and then revisit this.
@Grayson,
I watched. It was a riot, an insurrection in service of sedition. That’s what I saw and see. If I watched them again, the tapes wouldn’t change and neither would the verdict here in the reality-based world.
If Trump wins in 2024, isn’t America already doomed?
@Ken,
Depends. If Trump wins and the GOP holds onto the House and flips the Senate, maybe so. If Trump wins, but the Democrats get the House and Senate, maybe not.
If the Dems gain full control of Congress, that will at least mitigate a loss of the Presidency. One can only hope. Liz Cheyney, bless her, is still determined that Trump should not win. Mitt Romney too. As are a lot of ‘former’ Repubs. There’s still hope. That people will come to their senses in time.
@Fred,
I look forward to seeing Liz Cheney and Willard “Mitt” Romney campaign as “Republicans for Biden.” Not holding my breath.
If for I’ll not speculate whatever reason Trump is not in it I would not be surprised at a Romney/Cheney
It’s early, the game is afoot …
@Ten,
The major party nominees will be Trump (R) and Biden (D). The only uncertainty is who wins in November.
If voters get a chance to vote for Romney/Cheney, the winners will be Trump/Party-to-be-named-later. Or, with any luck, the House of Reps will get to decide, and the winners will be Trump/Party-to-be-named-later.
[sigh] I said what if … he’s not in it. I didn’t care to but
Let’s speculate: 1) the most likely is he could be sharing a box full of national security secrets with his children’s mother on an obscure hole at an obscure golf course in an obscure state; 2) if his ill-health doesn’t put him a hospital bed wandering the Bronx in a bathrobe may land him in a nutward afterall or 3) he might actually be in jail
There are any number of reasons he might not be in it and The Party will be desperate for a face of reasonableness and traditional Republican values to counter Biden’s populism, given the inbreeding of The Party it’s the obvious option. And do not discount Darth or his Daughter; he’s been pulling strings since Nixon, I wouldn’t be surprised if 4) Trump ended up the third-party spoiler candidate
I want to say it’s all academic but obviously it’s not. I didn’t want to speculate, all I did was ask what if. It’s no bark of my shins, fully on-board with Biden in a state fully on-board with Biden, if they put all of their eggs in one basket, if they don’t a backup plan
No bark off my shins if the Dems don’t either …
Of course, if the choice of the Presidency ends up in the House, since this will be the new Congress doing the voting, even if Dems control it there would still be a good chance of a Trump victory. (The House members have to choose among the the top three vote-getters.) BUT, it’s not by any means certain that Dems controlling the House per se would do the trick.
The process is that each state gets one vote, and that vote is determined by which party controls the majority of seats in a given state, not by the overall makeup up of the House.)
When the choice is made by the House, bear in mind that currently 26 states have GOP-majority delegations. Washungton DC does not get a vote. That means there will 26 states voting on one side, and 24 states on the other. Now, if party control of the House does change in N0v of this year, it could well mean that the 24/26 mix will change also. But it doesn’t have to. If Dem states get bluer, it may lead to Dem control of the House without changing the 24/26 mix at all.
Republicans Retain Edge in Electoral College Tie
GOP controls bare majority of House delegations and should continue to in the next Congress.
He also refers to you, I, and over 60% of Americans as “vermin” and “the enemy”. With almost no push back by the corporate media. As usual, the wealthy, corporatists, and the status quo are pro-authoritarian, and pro-fascism. Until it is too late.
@just,
Trump lost the 2016 election by nearly 3 million votes. He was appointed POTUS by the electoral college against the will of the voters. Trump lost the 2020 election by over 7 million votes, and also lost the EC.
While I don’t necessarily disagree about the wealthy and the corporatists, that’s not near enough votes to win with. Apparently, American voters aren’t slavishly following them.
Sure. In the sense that the Electoral College handles every presidential election this way.
@Fred,
Of course. But only five times has someone won the EC while losing the popular vote, and Trump in 2016 was the most recent case. He couldn’t repeat in 2020.
I agree we should change the way the EC works. It’s not in the cards however. I’ll say again: get the Popular Vote Compact instituted.
Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote
Trump Is Connecting With a Different Type of Evangelical Voter
NY Times – Jan 8
They are not just the churchgoing, conservative activists who once dominated the G.O.P.
(An interesting mixed Biblical metaphor. Perhaps more of a Goliath than a David.)
NY Times –
Republicans see Trump as a ‘person of faith’ …
Mitt Romney needs to re-stiffen his spine on Trump
Boston Globe – op-ed – Jan 8
Both Romney & Cheney come from families with deep roots in the GOP.
They struggle with the how the GOP is presently behaving, but they won’t be abandoning it, even when abandonment is called for. That’s unfortunate for all of us.
“When did the party of “law and order” become the party that attacks the American criminal justice system?”
Answer: when it became convenient for them.
similarly, when you succeed in abolishing the electoral college you can expect the R’s to outmaneuver the D’s to win the city vote.
Mitt and Liz are Republicans, dedicated to the prosperity of the prosperous. So, as it turned out were Bill and Barack. Meanwhile poor Bernie is stuck outside the sally port with a sign that says “Orcs go home, Leave your loot at the door, or I’ll throw myself on the floor and hold my breath until I turn blue. Which side are you on?
Trump leads Haley by big margin in N.H. primary, but would lose general election to Biden, according to Globe poll
Boston Globe – this morning
Two weeks before the New Hampshire presidential primary, Donald Trump holds a nearly 20 percentage point lead over Nikki Haley, but would lose a general election rematch to President Biden.
(Those are the results of the Suffolk/Globe/USA TODAY poll of New Hampshire primary voters. As far as losing to Joe Biden, this poll is only of NH voters to NH.)
There’s more in this piece stating that this poll indicates over 60% of NH Dem voters intend to write-in Joe Biden on the primary ballot. Very few support his challengers, who ARE on the ballot. And of 1000 voters polled, 42% support Biden while 34% support Trump, about the same as 2020.
@Fred,
*yawn*
Call me in three months. Everything you’re posting right now is just MSM clickbait.
Well, I agree that MSNBC is probably going to pick up on the idea that 60% of NH Dem voters are likely to write in Joe Biden. Who does that?
Well, USA Today weighed in…
Democratic debate stage without Biden sparks ‘Trump vibes’ for some voters
USA Today – yesterday
Personally, I will be relieved if NH Dems go to the trouble of writing in Joe Biden on their primary ballots. They did not like being dissed, as they take their primary very seriously. More so than a primary in a state that never ever votes for Dem presidents.
Dean Phillips Offers Dark Quip After Zero Voters Turn Out for Campaign Event
Daily Beast – yesterday
For Anti-Trump Republicans, It All Might Come Down to New Hampshire
NY Times – about 6 hours ago
With the Iowa caucuses likely to be a battle for second place, the next nominating state appears to offer the best chance of an upset defeat of Donald Trump.
Living just a few miles below the NH border, we are inundated with news about national politics as it unfolds in NH. We pretty much know what is going to happen here in MA on Super Tuesday, but we don’t get a lot of ‘inundation’ about it.
LOL! Chris Christie? As much as I like seeing a Republican stand up to Trump, Christie is about as irrelevant as it gets. He’s as inconsequential as Willard “Mitt” Romney and his car elevators.
Joel:
But he is big, like Simo Wrestlers. Just imagine the two of them charging each other from opposite sides. You really have to have a huge imagination to envision this and not throw up.
Chris Christie drops out of 2024 Republican presidential race
Boston Globe – just in
Mitt Romney Has Sold His $15 Million Car Elevator Mansion | Vanity Fair
Vanity Fair – July 6, 2021
According to the Salt Lake Tribune, the Utah senator has sold his beachfront mansion in La Jolla, California after first purchasing the home in 2008 for $12 million. …
… Romney may have let go of his giant seaside abode, he still has plenty of properties to stay in during the next Senate recess. The politician still has a 5,900-square-foot home in Holladay, Utah that he built in 2014, as well as an $8.9 million ski chalet in Park City. And when he wants to get out of the state, he can always swing by his place in Washington D.C., or his vacation home on Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire.
Newsweek: On Wednesday, the conservative publication National Review published an editorial titled “Republican Voters Can — and Should — Rethink Nominating Trump,” urging their readers and voters to put their weight behind another Republican candidate instead of Trump, such as Florida Governor Ron DeSantis or the former governor of South Carolina, Nikki Haley.
Republicans Should Rethink Nominating Trump | National Review
The Editors – January 10
2024: Stopping Trump, Renewing Democracy (thebulwark.com)
The Bullwork – December 14
Next year is about more than defeating a wannabe dictator—it’s also an opportunity for a grand reaffirmation of democracy.
New Hampshire Polls | FiveThirtyEight
Polls as of Jan 10
Dem: Biden 49%, Phillips 16%, Williamson 5%
GOP: Trump 44%, Haley 28%, Others 24% (including Christie, DeSantis…)