Let It Be On Their Heads
Today the conservative majority of Supreme Court Justices decided that federal vaccine mandates are unconstitutional, that states rights and employer rights are more important than the public’s welfare in this time of pandemic. It is likely that their decision will result in the unnecessary death of as many as 250,000 Americans. Let it be on their heads. Let history show for all times that these 250,000 unnecessary deaths are upon the heads of Justices Gorsuch, Thomas, Alito, Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett.
Do you really think that they care?
Listening to the orals, can’t but help think of fanatics; especially when Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas are asking questions, opining.
Employers could still test their employees and it was the test part that actually had the most merit. If OSHA wants to come back, I think the ruling might give enough room for an “all test” ETS. With omicron, pretty apparent that splitting employees into vax status groups is a minor element of workplace safety compared with test result. They could give up on the vax/no vax and still make a better ETS.
This blog needs a “Block Poster” function more than life itself.
Pretty sure that it has one at Bill and Dan’s discretion. Discretion is a funny thing with all those choices and consequences. In any case, ol’ Eric377 appears to just be our token conservative troll in this otherwise insular liberal echo chamber.
I mean personal, me blocking him. Up to others to decide it they want to read his tripe.
Not reading is always a choice. I not read a bunch of stuff.
Have a nice day, Susan Sarandons of the world.
” In 2022, the Supreme Court serves as the nation’s most powerful policymaking institution. It would be much easier to contain COVID if we acknowledged that the court’s decisions rest on not law but on some imprecise admixture of politics, ideology, and personal preferences. If Biden sat down with Roberts and Kavanaugh and asked them what pandemic policies they are comfortable with, we could skip over the performative
litigation and get some real work done. Instead, we must pretend as if SCOTUS is drawing on some ancient legal principles to police the boundaries between Congress and the executive. Nothing of the sort is actually happening, and in Thursday’s decisions, the justices barely feigned otherwise.
For now, the administrative state survives another day. But millions of workers are stripped of their lone protection against a superspreader workplace, and the Supreme Court scores yet another victory in its battle against self-governance.”
“…… imprecise admixture of politics, ideology, and personal preferences.” That’s it exactly. The arrogance of the majority? They think this and they think that. Alito did it several times on the Texas anti-abortion thing. They do not need to stick to the law, they are the law, whatever their opinion is. Barrett (who in my opinion is a snake) is so full of it when she says they are not political hacks. What she is is a GD liar.
Vax/no vax is not a strong model for keeping coronavirus out of any collective situation. Although imperfect, testing is a stronger model. Why does observing this “nose on the face” bit of reality upset some people? Had OSHA started out with “test everyone that routinely works with others in their job” kind of standard, bet it would have been much less controversial and more effective at the same time. Not sure what to think when an idea is quickly deemed some kind of trolling, when the alternative of “here is why this is a bad idea” is available.
It is a pandemic not a seasonal flu. In 2018-2020, there were 16 million flu visits, 380,000 hospitalizations, and 20,000 flu-related deaths. Between October 2020 and July 2021, there were 2136 diagnosed with the flu, and 748 reported flu deaths. CDC estimates the flu causes 12,000 to 50,000 death per year. The 2020 – 2021 season (October – May) was down dramatically.
It certainly was not because people were healthier or the flu vaccine was stronger. People stayed home, didn’t party, worked from home, wore masks, stayed distant from others, etc. These practices worked against the flu. They also worked in preventing the Covid. When there is a pandemic, epidemic, an aggressive flu, measles, mumps, small pox going around; you isolate yourself so as to protect yourself and if ill do not transmit the whatever to anyone else.
I am not sure where the idea of your freedoms to spread a disease trumps my freedom not to catch whatever you have which today is Covid. For which there is a vaccine, as temporary it is in protection due to Covid being able to genetically change and change more frequently in months than the flu which “appears” to do the same yearly. You have no basis for this stance.
The SCOTUS objecting justices, who live secluded from the pandemic, do the population a disservice by preventing a government agency from carrying out the vital prevention-role of the spread of Covid. I am sure they are all inoculated. They are signing in to Hearings on computers. With the exception of the maskless Gorsuch, most are practicing what they need to do to protect themselves and others around them. Perhaps, Gorusch will be the sacrificial lamb?
A politically noncompliant Congress supported by a similar Supreme Court will not act to insure the constituency is safe. In the end Eric, you are free to die in whatever manner you wish. You are not free to take me with you due to your choice on the method.
Perhaps, Gorsuch will catch Covid? I do not wish it upon him. Someone has to learn rather than read about it.
So the US Constitution IS a suicide pact?
Its flaws have been used and abused by racists, segregationists, and of late (I repeat myself) by the Republican Party.
No, the US Constitution is the bible of republicanism, which has little to nothing to do with democracy as it was written and amended. It guarantees US citizens a government of the people by the elites for the wealthy.
It’s at least somewhat interesting or ironic that Chief Justice Roberts is practically the most liberal of the conservative wing. To the extent that in recent months, it SCOTUS has been referred to as the Thomas Court. But then it was the GOP-dominated SCOTUS that gave US the Bush Jr presidency and all that followed.
The Thomas Court
After 30 years of waiting, Justice Clarence Thomas has seniority and a court shaped in his likeness.
W$J: God Save the Clarence Thomas Court
He’s not chief justice, but never before has he had the power and influence he has now.
I often listen to the oral arguments on C-Span. Couldn’t tolerate the one on the vaccination mandate. I am coming to believe that Gorsuch is the worst of the bad lot comprised of himself, Alito, and Thomas. Is this a glimpse into the nation’s future?
Here is a relevant link (amongst many):
The relevant part to this discussion is expressed: “The choice is not between order and liberty. It is between liberty with order and anarchy without either. There is danger that, if the court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact.” Justice Robert Jackson 1949
A priest inciting a riot was convicted. SCOTUS said Chicago violated his right to free speech and overturned the conviction. Jackson dissented.
a couple hours ago i went over to “theHill.com” to see if there was any DC news i should be following up on, certainly not looking for any Covid or vaccine news over there….these are the Covid/vaccine related articles i came across since, without even trying…