Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) on Sunday lambasted retired Army Lieutenant General Russel Honoré and his “notorious partisan bias,”
McCarthy: “While there may be some worthy recommendations forthcoming, General Honore’s notorious partisan bias calls into question the rationality of appointing him to lead this important security review. It also raises the unacceptable possibility that the Speaker desired a certain result: turning the Capitol into a fortress.”
Why do those macho-Repubs need a bullet-spewing – weapon in the Capitol? Their rioters are not after them “supposedly,” the rioters are after Dems who they lied about along with trump.
General Honoré tweeted pre-McCarthy: “This little peace of shit with his @Yale law degree should be run out of DC and Disbarred ASAP @HawleyMO @tedcruz aaa hats,” it read. “These @Yale and @Harvard law grads is high order white privilege.”
Somebody finally said it about Repubs, especially about Hawley and Cruz.
Rescue Package Includes $86 Billion Bailout for Failing Pensionshttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/business/dealbook/bailout-pensions-stimulus.html?smid=tw-shareDemocrats pushed through a big aid measure for multiemployer pensions whose problems predate the pandemic.Tucked inside the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill that cleared the Senate on Saturday is an $86 billion aid package that has nothing to do with the pandemic.Rather, the $86 billion is a taxpayer bailout for about 185 union pension plans that are so close to collapse that without the rescue, more than a million retired truck drivers, retail clerks, builders and others could be forced to forgo retirement income.The bailout targets multiemployer pension plans, which bring groups of companies together with a union to provide guaranteed benefits. All told, about 1,400 of the plans cover about 10.7 million active and retired workers, often in fields like construction or entertainment where the workers move from job to job. As the work force ages, an alarming number of the plans are running out of money. The trend predated the pandemic and is a result of fading unions, serial bankruptcies and the misplaced hope that investment income would foot most of the bill so that employers and workers wouldn’t have to.Both the House and Senate stimulus measures would give the weakest plans enough money to pay hundreds of thousands of retirees — a number that will grow in the future — their full pensions for the next 30 years. The provision does not require the plans to pay back the bailout, freeze accruals or to end the practices that led to their current distress, which means their troubles could recur. Nor does it explain what will happen when the taxpayer money runs out 30 years from now. Senator Sherrod Brown, a Democrat from Ohio who has been leading the charge to rescue the ailing pension plans, said that including the provision in the relief bill is a “really big deal” for both the retirees who depend on the money and the employers now being crushed by promises they cannot afford to keep.“It goes back to the fact that these workers didn’t do anything wrong,” Mr. Brown said in an interview on Thursday. “They have earned these pensions.” He added that the pandemic had worsened the crisis facing the plans. …
Ron (RC) Weakley (A.K.A., Darryl For A While At EV) says:
Run, I guess I will need to take a cryptography course to be able to understand your comment on Honoré. After doing some background then Honoré appears to be the good guy, but everyone but the Speaker is a Republican. At least you did make me look. My bet is on “The Ragin’ Cajun”.
In the Stimulus Bill, a Policy Revolution in Aid for ChildrenThe $1.9 trillion pandemic relief package moving through Congress advances an idea that Democrats have been nurturing for decades: establishing a guaranteed income for families with children…. Obscured by other parts of President Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus package, which won Senate approval on Saturday, the child benefit has the makings of a policy revolution. Though framed in technocratic terms as an expansion of an existing tax credit, it is essentially a guaranteed income for families with children, akin to children’s allowances that are common in other rich countries. ADVERTISEMENTContinue reading the main story The plan establishes the benefit for a single year. But if it becomes permanent, as Democrats intend, it will greatly enlarge the safety net for the poor and the middle class at a time when the volatile modern economy often leaves families moving between those groups. More than 93 percent of children — 69 million — would receive benefits under the plan, at a one-year cost of more than $100 billion.The bill, which is likely to pass the House and be signed by Mr. Biden this week, raises the maximum benefit most families will receive by up to 80 percent per child and extends it to millions of families whose earnings are too low to fully qualify under existing law. Currently, a quarter of children get a partial benefit, and the poorest 10 percent get nothing. …
Ron (RC) Weakley (A.K.A., Darryl For A While At EV) says:
I don’t want to dirty up the Bloody Sunday thread comments with an observation this crass, but definitely the evolving racial demographics in the US had caused me to ponder the White Supremacists’ desire to start a race war. Apparently Nazis cannot do arithmetic. The first rule of warfare is that one should never start a conflict that they are bound to lose. IOW, in the famous words of Richard Pryor “Dead honky.” Word Association (Saturday Night Live) – Wikipedia
… Obscured by other parts of President Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus package, which won Senate approval on Saturday, the child benefit has the makings of a policy revolution. Though framed in technocratic terms as an expansion of an existing tax credit, it is essentially a guaranteed income for families with children, akin to children’s allowances that are common in other rich countries.Continue reading the main story The plan establishes the benefit for a single year. But if it becomes permanent, as Democrats intend, it will greatly enlarge the safety net for the poor and the middle class at a time when the volatile modern economy often leaves families moving between those groups. More than 93 percent of children — 69 million — would receive benefits under the plan, at a one-year cost of more than $100 billion.The bill, which is likely to pass the House and be signed by Mr. Biden this week, raises the maximum benefit most families will receive by up to 80 percent per child and extends it to millions of families whose earnings are too low to fully qualify under existing law. Currently, a quarter of children get a partial benefit, and the poorest 10 percent get nothing. …https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/us/politics/child-tax-credit-stimulus.html?smid=tw-share
Senator Lindsey Graham was extremely articulate about the role Donald Trump could play in the future of the Republican Party during a television interview that aired Sunday night.“To me, Donald Trump is sort of a cross between Jesse Helms, Ronald Reagan, and P.T. Barnum,” Graham toldAxios on HBO.“He could make the Republican Party something that nobody else I know can make it. He can make it bigger. He can make it stronger. He can make it more diverse. And he also could destroy it.”The only issue with the statement is that Graham pondered Trump’s position as if it were a future question that hasn’t been answered.But it is becoming obvious to Graham’s Senate Republican colleagues that the question has been answered: Trump is destroying the party or at least completely remaking it in his own image. And, if that reconfiguration is not something Senate Republicans want to be a part of, they risk facing a serious primary challenge.On Monday, a fifth Senate Republican colleague of Graham’s announced that he would not seek reelection. This time is it Missouri’s Roy Blunt, who at 71 years old, has had a long tenure on Capitol Hill and is still relatively young for the standards of the Senate. But, more importantly, he is also the fourth most powerful Republican in the body.In a video statement, Blunt said simply that after winning 14 general elections it was time to call it quits in politics.In so doing he joins other Senate Republicans who have announced they aren’t running in 2022, including Pennsylvania’s Pat Toomey, Ohio’s Rob Portman, North Carolina’s Richard Burr, Alabama’s Richard Shelby. (Iowa’s Chuck Grassley and Wisconsin’s Ron Johnson — also up for reelection next year — have yet to announce a decision on whether they will run again.)One cannot blame Democrats for being thrilled to see these popular incumbents heading for the door. While all but one of the departing senators come from a state that Donald Trump won twice, at least an open race gives Democrats a better chance of picking up a seat.Given that the Senate is currently evenly split at 50 each, and that, historically, the party that has the White House loses seats during the midterm election, every small change heading intonext year matters.However, the bigger consequence of the 2022 midterms probably won’t be that the Democratic Party will gain seats, but that the Trump wing of the Republican Party will.In the case of all five Senators, while they each voted with Trump nearly every single time, they were culturally not Trump Republicans. In Blunt’s case, former Missouri governor Eric Greitens was already talking about a primary challenge, arguing Blunt wasn’t pro-Trump enough.Greitens has to be considered the front-runner to be next senator from the state, despite how, um, complicated his political background may be.But it is not just Missouri. In Ohio, the leading Republican candidates for the Senate are definitely more pro-Trump than Portman. And while the field of candidates is still evolving in Pennsylvania and North Carolina, both senators leaving voted to convict Trump in February, something that probably no Republican replacement will say was a good idea. Alabama is also likely to get a more Trump-y replacement than Shelby, given who has won their last two Republican primaries for Senate in that state, most recently Senator Tommy Tuberville, who initially led the initial idea to not certify the results of the Electoral College. …
Joe Manchin has said that he would like to see some revenue to offset the expense. I think it’s time that Democrats revisit the idea of tiered tax rates for the estate tax. Hillary Clinton proposed a top rate of 65% in her 2016 campaign, taking up an idea from her rival Bernie Sanders. https://www.vox.com/2016/9/23/13030616/hillary-clinton-estate-tax-sanders
In a race war or any war identity matters much less than guns and the will to face others that also have guns in a fire fight. A lot of white supremacists have never shot anything that could shoot back. Gangs that run successful trafficking operations are battle tested. The WS has been drafting vets in preparation for their war, but I doubt the numbers work. Even Afghanistan went better than the war on drugs and human trafficking. Cuba Libre and the Jamaicans took Florida from the Italian mob. Hitler’s Nazis had the desperation that our Nazis have never earned, but walk into an urban ghetto and almost all that you will see is desperation.
Ron (RC) Weakley (A.K.A., Darryl For A While At EV) says:
IOW, Hitler’s master race was really about a back story that most either never knew or conveniently forgot. Blue-eyed blonde-haired little children were suffering from malnutrition in large numbers as a matter of “The Economic Consequences of the Peace,” just as Keynes had predicted. So, in the minds of Hitler’s Nazis they were fighting in a holy war, not an unholy war, at least in the beginning. What our Nazis are fighting for is penis envy.
Former President Trump said people should
donate to his PAC and not Republican committees.
Trump’s statement said donations to the GOP
would be supporting “Republicans in name only.”
Trump’s Save America PAC has
raised more than $31 million…
Former President Donald Trump is trying to siphon donations away from the Republican National Committee and into his political action committee fund.
Trump, who recently flirted with starting his own political party, dubbed The Patriot Party, sent a letter warning donors to avoid supporting RINOs, or Republicans In Name Only. …
Ron (RC) Weakley (A.K.A., Darryl For A While At EV) says:
Dobbs re pensions: the workers did do something wrong. they did not pay (or have their bosses pay, which is the same thing) enough into their pensions. or understand that neither their boss’s “profits” or the stock market could be relied upon to pay the pensions in the future. unlike Social Security which can pay your pension (which YOU paid for) forever as long as America lasts (without becoming an aristocracy of the rich) and people understand how “pay as you go” financing works.. in the case of Social Security… not quite the same as it does in the Federal Budget. The workers would be better off not relying on their private (employer) pensions plans, but putting their money into a higher payroll tax so SS could pay higher benefits to them . As said, they would need to understand how this works. I see no sign that they ever will.
Pensions continued: there is a pathetic kind of greed in this. people expect someone else to pay for their pensions: the stock market, their boss, “the government”..by which they mean “the rich.” this is somewhat understandable. before the invention of Social Security people had to save their money under the mattress, or in the bank, or in the “market.” which was always inadequate… due to moth and theft (inflation, bank failure, and market losses (often fraud). Social Security allows the worker to pay for his own pension, with “interest” that comes from pay as you go in a growing economy and automatically protects against inflation. even if people didn’t really understand this, they came to expect it and “believe” in it. but that was before a billion dollar campaign of lies made everyone believe SS was going broke and wouldn’t be there for them and “we” can’t afford it. they get no help seeing through these lies from ANY “expert”, pundit, or politician. it’s funny to see the government bailing out private pensions while saying we can’t afford Social Security. Anybody know what’s becomeing of the “payroll tax holiday”? [obviously it is better to withdraw your life savings and buy a new car because..growth. obviously it’s better to plan on working longer because you are going to be living longer. even Clinton and Gingrich agreed about that. obviously.
Ron (RC) Weakley (A.K.A., Darryl For A While At EV) says:
of course the WS see it coming. That’s why they are fighting to end democracy through voter suppression.
on the other hand, you will be surprised when the minority becomes the majority that power corrupts absolutely. they will be neither smarter, nor kinder, nor more honest than the current majority.
The economy has greatly improved from the worst months of job loss last spring, but millions of people are still out of work. And neither the initial losses nor the subsequent gains have been spread evenly.
As a proportion of their employment levels before the pandemic, significantly fewer Black and Hispanic women are working now than any other demographic, according to the latest government data — and women are lagging behind men across race and ethnicity. …
Research has shown that some of the disproportionate impact on women was driven by the need to care for children during the pandemic, a circumstance that is often not captured in the official unemployment rate, which accounts only for people actively seeking work. Even among women, however, white women have not experienced the same changes in employment levels as women of color.
One reason for this pattern is that women of color tend to work in the industries that have been felt the most impact, said Kathryn Edwards, an economist at the RAND Corporation. “What’s happening this recession that is special is a real decline in service and leisure and hospitality, which means the most affected people this recession are the people who work in that sector, who are disproportionately women of color,” she said. …
Ron (RC) Weakley (A.K.A., Darryl For A While At EV) says:
@Coberly, Actually ol’ Lord Acton said that “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men…” No surprises there though.
Ron, i would agree, “almost always bad,” but certainly almost always willing to commit homicide for politidal purposes. probably, though, even you and i would be forced to agree with some of those purposes. but i was thinking of great eonomists and great philosophers, and even great writers. probably we need them. but it is dangerous, and a form of stupidity, to agree with them just because they were great. times change, and even great minds get it wrong sometimes. i had my own experience with power corrupting…me. Scared me, and I quit.
Ron (RC) Weakley (A.K.A., Darryl For A While At EV) says:
Coberly, Indeed. Those that die in war rarely do so for their own reasons. I was lucky to serve in Vietnam without either killing or being killed. The body bags stacked alongside the wall of the shed next door after we ran out of pine boxes for shipping the boys home left its mark. Elites quickly forget who dies for them, at least as a general rule including generals that rule.
Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) on Sunday lambasted retired Army Lieutenant General Russel Honoré and his “notorious partisan bias,”
McCarthy: “While there may be some worthy recommendations forthcoming, General Honore’s notorious partisan bias calls into question the rationality of appointing him to lead this important security review. It also raises the unacceptable possibility that the Speaker desired a certain result: turning the Capitol into a fortress.”
Why do those macho-Repubs need a bullet-spewing – weapon in the Capitol? Their rioters are not after them “supposedly,” the rioters are after Dems who they lied about along with trump.
General Honoré tweeted pre-McCarthy: “This little peace of shit with his @Yale law degree should be run out of DC and Disbarred ASAP @HawleyMO @tedcruz aaa hats,” it read. “These @Yale and @Harvard law grads is high order white privilege.”
Somebody finally said it about Repubs, especially about Hawley and Cruz.
Rescue Package Includes $86 Billion Bailout for Failing Pensionshttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/business/dealbook/bailout-pensions-stimulus.html?smid=tw-shareDemocrats pushed through a big aid measure for multiemployer pensions whose problems predate the pandemic.Tucked inside the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill that cleared the Senate on Saturday is an $86 billion aid package that has nothing to do with the pandemic.Rather, the $86 billion is a taxpayer bailout for about 185 union pension plans that are so close to collapse that without the rescue, more than a million retired truck drivers, retail clerks, builders and others could be forced to forgo retirement income.The bailout targets multiemployer pension plans, which bring groups of companies together with a union to provide guaranteed benefits. All told, about 1,400 of the plans cover about 10.7 million active and retired workers, often in fields like construction or entertainment where the workers move from job to job. As the work force ages, an alarming number of the plans are running out of money. The trend predated the pandemic and is a result of fading unions, serial bankruptcies and the misplaced hope that investment income would foot most of the bill so that employers and workers wouldn’t have to.Both the House and Senate stimulus measures would give the weakest plans enough money to pay hundreds of thousands of retirees — a number that will grow in the future — their full pensions for the next 30 years. The provision does not require the plans to pay back the bailout, freeze accruals or to end the practices that led to their current distress, which means their troubles could recur. Nor does it explain what will happen when the taxpayer money runs out 30 years from now. Senator Sherrod Brown, a Democrat from Ohio who has been leading the charge to rescue the ailing pension plans, said that including the provision in the relief bill is a “really big deal” for both the retirees who depend on the money and the employers now being crushed by promises they cannot afford to keep.“It goes back to the fact that these workers didn’t do anything wrong,” Mr. Brown said in an interview on Thursday. “They have earned these pensions.” He added that the pandemic had worsened the crisis facing the plans. …
Run, I guess I will need to take a cryptography course to be able to understand your comment on Honoré. After doing some background then Honoré appears to be the good guy, but everyone but the Speaker is a Republican. At least you did make me look. My bet is on “The Ragin’ Cajun”.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/us/politics/child-tax-credit-stimulus.html?smid=tw-share
I don’t want to dirty up the Bloody Sunday thread comments with an observation this crass, but definitely the evolving racial demographics in the US had caused me to ponder the White Supremacists’ desire to start a race war. Apparently Nazis cannot do arithmetic. The first rule of warfare is that one should never start a conflict that they are bound to lose. IOW, in the famous words of Richard Pryor “Dead honky.” Word Association (Saturday Night Live) – Wikipedia
Well Ron:
Some white-folk have not realized their destiny of becoming a minority is already in grade schools across the US
… Obscured by other parts of President Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus package, which won Senate approval on Saturday, the child benefit has the makings of a policy revolution. Though framed in technocratic terms as an expansion of an existing tax credit, it is essentially a guaranteed income for families with children, akin to children’s allowances that are common in other rich countries.Continue reading the main story The plan establishes the benefit for a single year. But if it becomes permanent, as Democrats intend, it will greatly enlarge the safety net for the poor and the middle class at a time when the volatile modern economy often leaves families moving between those groups. More than 93 percent of children — 69 million — would receive benefits under the plan, at a one-year cost of more than $100 billion.The bill, which is likely to pass the House and be signed by Mr. Biden this week, raises the maximum benefit most families will receive by up to 80 percent per child and extends it to millions of families whose earnings are too low to fully qualify under existing law. Currently, a quarter of children get a partial benefit, and the poorest 10 percent get nothing. …https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/us/politics/child-tax-credit-stimulus.html?smid=tw-share
A fifth Senate Republican announces retirement. Yes, it’s good news for Democrats, but the real winner is Trump https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/03/08/nation/fifth-senate-republican-announces-retirement-yes-its-good-news-democrats-real-winner-is-trump/?event=event25
@ Ron Weakly,I read somewhere that the whites becoming a minority is a myth because more people will self identify as white.
Now that the covid relief bill is done, it’s time for Democrats to start looking at the infrastructure bill. They are allowed to use a 2nd reconciliation this year because it was not used last year.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/feb/08/what-you-need-know-about-budget-reconciliation-pro/
Joe Manchin has said that he would like to see some revenue to offset the expense. I think it’s time that Democrats revisit the idea of tiered tax rates for the estate tax. Hillary Clinton proposed a top rate of 65% in her 2016 campaign, taking up an idea from her rival Bernie Sanders.
https://www.vox.com/2016/9/23/13030616/hillary-clinton-estate-tax-sanders
Jim:
If it can be done, reverse Trump’s tax break which was skewed to the 1%.
@Dave Barnes,
In a race war or any war identity matters much less than guns and the will to face others that also have guns in a fire fight. A lot of white supremacists have never shot anything that could shoot back. Gangs that run successful trafficking operations are battle tested. The WS has been drafting vets in preparation for their war, but I doubt the numbers work. Even Afghanistan went better than the war on drugs and human trafficking. Cuba Libre and the Jamaicans took Florida from the Italian mob. Hitler’s Nazis had the desperation that our Nazis have never earned, but walk into an urban ghetto and almost all that you will see is desperation.
IOW, Hitler’s master race was really about a back story that most either never knew or conveniently forgot. Blue-eyed blonde-haired little children were suffering from malnutrition in large numbers as a matter of “The Economic Consequences of the Peace,” just as Keynes had predicted. So, in the minds of Hitler’s Nazis they were fighting in a holy war, not an unholy war, at least in the beginning. What our Nazis are fighting for is penis envy.
GOP to be renamed ‘(GO)TrumPublican Party’?
Former President Trump is urging Republicans to donate directly to him instead of the GOP
Former President Trump said people should
donate to his PAC and not Republican committees.
Trump’s statement said donations to the GOP
would be supporting “Republicans in name only.”
Trump’s Save America PAC has
raised more than $31 million…
Former President Donald Trump is trying to siphon donations away from the Republican National Committee and into his political action committee fund.
Trump, who recently flirted with starting his own political party, dubbed The Patriot Party, sent a letter warning donors to avoid supporting RINOs, or Republicans In Name Only. …
How I-RINO-call that the the treasonous Trump would call his outlaws the Patriot Party.
Dog ate my last comment.
🙂
OK, eat this, you slimy dog.
Dobbs re pensions: the workers did do something wrong. they did not pay (or have their bosses pay, which is the same thing) enough into their pensions. or understand that neither their boss’s “profits” or the stock market could be relied upon to pay the pensions in the future. unlike Social Security which can pay your pension (which YOU paid for) forever as long as America lasts (without becoming an aristocracy of the rich) and people understand how “pay as you go” financing works.. in the case of Social Security… not quite the same as it does in the Federal Budget. The workers would be better off not relying on their private (employer) pensions plans, but putting their money into a higher payroll tax so SS could pay higher benefits to them . As said, they would need to understand how this works. I see no sign that they ever will.
Pensions continued: there is a pathetic kind of greed in this. people expect someone else to pay for their pensions: the stock market, their boss, “the government”..by which they mean “the rich.” this is somewhat understandable. before the invention of Social Security people had to save their money under the mattress, or in the bank, or in the “market.” which was always inadequate… due to moth and theft (inflation, bank failure, and market losses (often fraud). Social Security allows the worker to pay for his own pension, with “interest” that comes from pay as you go in a growing economy and automatically protects against inflation. even if people didn’t really understand this, they came to expect it and “believe” in it. but that was before a billion dollar campaign of lies made everyone believe SS was going broke and wouldn’t be there for them and “we” can’t afford it. they get no help seeing through these lies from ANY “expert”, pundit, or politician. it’s funny to see the government bailing out private pensions while saying we can’t afford Social Security. Anybody know what’s becomeing of the “payroll tax holiday”? [obviously it is better to withdraw your life savings and buy a new car because..growth. obviously it’s better to plan on working longer because you are going to be living longer. even Clinton and Gingrich agreed about that. obviously.
Let’s see what that slimy dog is up to now?
Minority majority
of course the WS see it coming. That’s why they are fighting to end democracy through voter suppression.
on the other hand, you will be surprised when the minority becomes the majority that power corrupts absolutely. they will be neither smarter, nor kinder, nor more honest than the current majority.
A Year Later, Who Is Back to Work and Who Is Not?
NY Times – March 9
(Many graphics, at the link.)
The economy has greatly improved from the worst months of job loss last spring, but millions of people are still out of work. And neither the initial losses nor the subsequent gains have been spread evenly.
As a proportion of their employment levels before the pandemic, significantly fewer Black and Hispanic women are working now than any other demographic, according to the latest government data — and women are lagging behind men across race and ethnicity. …
Research has shown that some of the disproportionate impact on women was driven by the need to care for children during the pandemic, a circumstance that is often not captured in the official unemployment rate, which accounts only for people actively seeking work. Even among women, however, white women have not experienced the same changes in employment levels as women of color.
One reason for this pattern is that women of color tend to work in the industries that have been felt the most impact, said Kathryn Edwards, an economist at the RAND Corporation. “What’s happening this recession that is special is a real decline in service and leisure and hospitality, which means the most affected people this recession are the people who work in that sector, who are disproportionately women of color,” she said. …
@Coberly, Actually ol’ Lord Acton said that “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men…” No surprises there though.
Ron, i would agree, “almost always bad,” but certainly almost always willing to commit homicide for politidal purposes. probably, though, even you and i would be forced to agree with some of those purposes. but i was thinking of great eonomists and great philosophers, and even great writers. probably we need them. but it is dangerous, and a form of stupidity, to agree with them just because they were great. times change, and even great minds get it wrong sometimes. i had my own experience with power corrupting…me. Scared me, and I quit.
Coberly, Indeed. Those that die in war rarely do so for their own reasons. I was lucky to serve in Vietnam without either killing or being killed. The body bags stacked alongside the wall of the shed next door after we ran out of pine boxes for shipping the boys home left its mark. Elites quickly forget who dies for them, at least as a general rule including generals that rule.