10 replies on “Open Thread Jan. 6, 2021 Washington D. C. Edition”
run75441
January 6, 2021 3:11 pm
If there was ever a time to call out the military, now is it. Here we have a presidential incited riot going on, forcing Congress to abandon the E.C. Certification process for the President-Elect, and we are unprepared to meet the issues.
This is plain stupid . . . the Congress, the White House police, Washington D.C. was not prepared for this. They should have had additional guards there.
Daniel Becker
January 6, 2021 3:57 pm
All I keep hearing is: It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt.
We’ll know where we stand as a nation a few days from now when we hear what Moscow Mitch says about all this. Today his retort to Cruz et al included blaming the Dems for “Delegitimizing” the Trump election and thus leading to the Cruz et al objections. See how he does it?
Toomey doing his best to speak against Cruz et al made sure to get his dig in too. We can’t get rid of the electoral college because then a few big blue states will run the show. Right, because elections are based on acreage and not population.
So, we’ll know where we stand in a few days when we hear the Republican’s responses.
My bet, it won’t be any better. No lesson learned, and the continuation of lip service to the Constitution while all’s fair in love and war.
run75441
January 6, 2021 5:28 pm
Daniel:
The quibbling of a few who know their days are numbered as an influence within the government of the United States. Dems did not delegitimize trump. He did that himself by his lies, character, and actions. He needs to leave
Fred C. Dobbs
January 6, 2021 4:45 pm
If matters were in hand,, VP Pence would be
convening the Cabinet and invoking the 25th
Amendment to remove Mr Trump from office.
Alas, matters are not in hand.
run75441
January 6, 2021 5:30 pm
Fred:
The chicken sh*t is afraid of trump. I do not get why some healthy people would succumb to this big bag of wind.
After weeks of promoting Wednesday’s rally in Washington, and remaining largely quiet as his supporters violently stormed the Capitol, President Trump issued a video urging them to “go home in peace” even as he continued his false argument that the election had been stolen from him.
As a pro-Trump mob breached the Capitol, breaking windows and forcing lawmakers and others to flee, Mr. Trump had avoided appearing publicly, instead urging his supporters twice on Twitter to respect law enforcement. He only issued a video after President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. called on him to publicly “demand an end to this siege”
In the video posted to Twitter, Mr. Trump told his supporters “You have to go home now,” and said that “we have to have peace.” But he also spent a large portion of the video falsely claiming that the election was fraudulent.
Twitter attached a warning to the video that said its claims were “disputed” and that the tweet could not be shared or replied to “due to a risk of violence.”
Mr. Trump concluded the video by saying that his supporters should be peaceful. …
Just after 1 p.m., when President Trump ended his speech to protesters in Washington by calling for them to march on Congress, hundreds of echoing calls to storm the building were made by his supporters online.
On social media sites requested by the far-right, such as Gab and Parler, directions on which streets to take to avoid the police and which tools to bring to help pry open doors were exchanged in comments. At least a dozen people posted about carrying guns into the halls of Congress.
Calls for violence against members of Congress and for pro-Trump movements to retake the Capitol building have been circulating online for months. Bolstered by Mr. Trump, who has courted fringe movements like QAnon and the Proud Boys, groups have openly organized on social media networks and recruited others to their cause. …
Arne
January 7, 2021 11:52 am
The question of self-pardon becomes moot if Pence follows Ford’s precedent and pardons Trump upon his leaving.
JimH
January 8, 2021 11:09 am
More heated rhetoric from Joseph Biden’s followers is not exactly the way to calm President Trump’s followers.
What is to be done about the 73 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump? They would require a massive number of re education camps.
Who have we become?
1. Any critical questions about elections are immediately denied, no investigation is needed.
2. The opposition’s social media contributors are shut down.
3. Veiled threats are made about anyone in opposition.
4. A protester is killed in the US Capitol Building as she climbed thru a window. (a 14 year US Air Force veteran)
run75441
January 9, 2021 8:03 pm
Interesting Note:
WASHINGTON (AP) — AP Source: Pelosi tells Dems that top military official assured her steps are in place to prevent Trump nuclear launch.
If there was ever a time to call out the military, now is it. Here we have a presidential incited riot going on, forcing Congress to abandon the E.C. Certification process for the President-Elect, and we are unprepared to meet the issues.
This is plain stupid . . . the Congress, the White House police, Washington D.C. was not prepared for this. They should have had additional guards there.
All I keep hearing is: It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt.
We’ll know where we stand as a nation a few days from now when we hear what Moscow Mitch says about all this. Today his retort to Cruz et al included blaming the Dems for “Delegitimizing” the Trump election and thus leading to the Cruz et al objections. See how he does it?
Toomey doing his best to speak against Cruz et al made sure to get his dig in too. We can’t get rid of the electoral college because then a few big blue states will run the show. Right, because elections are based on acreage and not population.
So, we’ll know where we stand in a few days when we hear the Republican’s responses.
My bet, it won’t be any better. No lesson learned, and the continuation of lip service to the Constitution while all’s fair in love and war.
Daniel:
The quibbling of a few who know their days are numbered as an influence within the government of the United States. Dems did not delegitimize trump. He did that himself by his lies, character, and actions. He needs to leave
If matters were in hand,, VP Pence would be
convening the Cabinet and invoking the 25th
Amendment to remove Mr Trump from office.
Alas, matters are not in hand.
Fred:
The chicken sh*t is afraid of trump. I do not get why some healthy people would succumb to this big bag of wind.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/washington-dc-protests/trump-after-largely-staying-quiet-as-his-supporters-stormed-the-capitol-tells-them-to-go-home
After weeks of promoting Wednesday’s rally in Washington, and remaining largely quiet as his supporters violently stormed the Capitol, President Trump issued a video urging them to “go home in peace” even as he continued his false argument that the election had been stolen from him.
As a pro-Trump mob breached the Capitol, breaking windows and forcing lawmakers and others to flee, Mr. Trump had avoided appearing publicly, instead urging his supporters twice on Twitter to respect law enforcement. He only issued a video after President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. called on him to publicly “demand an end to this siege”
In the video posted to Twitter, Mr. Trump told his supporters “You have to go home now,” and said that “we have to have peace.” But he also spent a large portion of the video falsely claiming that the election was fraudulent.
Twitter attached a warning to the video that said its claims were “disputed” and that the tweet could not be shared or replied to “due to a risk of violence.”
Mr. Trump concluded the video by saying that his supporters should be peaceful. …
The storming of Capitol Hill was organized on social media
NY Times – January 6
Just after 1 p.m., when President Trump ended his speech to protesters in Washington by calling for them to march on Congress, hundreds of echoing calls to storm the building were made by his supporters online.
On social media sites requested by the far-right, such as Gab and Parler, directions on which streets to take to avoid the police and which tools to bring to help pry open doors were exchanged in comments. At least a dozen people posted about carrying guns into the halls of Congress.
Calls for violence against members of Congress and for pro-Trump movements to retake the Capitol building have been circulating online for months. Bolstered by Mr. Trump, who has courted fringe movements like QAnon and the Proud Boys, groups have openly organized on social media networks and recruited others to their cause. …
The question of self-pardon becomes moot if Pence follows Ford’s precedent and pardons Trump upon his leaving.
More heated rhetoric from Joseph Biden’s followers is not exactly the way to calm President Trump’s followers.
What is to be done about the 73 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump? They would require a massive number of re education camps.
Who have we become?
1. Any critical questions about elections are immediately denied, no investigation is needed.
2. The opposition’s social media contributors are shut down.
3. Veiled threats are made about anyone in opposition.
4. A protester is killed in the US Capitol Building as she climbed thru a window. (a 14 year US Air Force veteran)
Interesting Note:
WASHINGTON (AP) — AP Source: Pelosi tells Dems that top military official assured her steps are in place to prevent Trump nuclear launch.
— Mike Balsamo (@MikeBalsamo1) January 8, 2021