Charlie McCarthy Gave a Speech Today to the Detroit Economic Club
Today Donald Trump gave a speech in Detroit describing some economic policies he’d like to pursue if he became president, and like with his other periodic “policy” speeches, he sounded as if he was encountering the speech, and the substance therein, for the first time as he sleepily read it off a teleprompter. But that doesn’t mean that the speech doesn’t tell us something important about how Trump would govern if he were to become president. Quite the contrary; in fact, this speech is an important window into Trump’s governing style, or as it might be better understood, his non-governing style.
As you might expect, the speech was full of falsehoods and nonsense, such as the idea that the unemployment rate is a “hoax” and that Hillary Clinton “said she wanted to raise taxes on the middle class.” Like every other Republican in memory, Trump argues that the only thing keeping our economy from rocketing into the stratosphere are the chains that government has locked around it. “I want to jump-start America,” he said, “and it can be done, and it won’t even be that hard.” Also, everyone gets a pony.
It’s tempting to dismiss Trump’s policy suggestions out of hand. But it’s important to understand what he says he would like to do, whether he himself understands it or not. Let’s take a look at what Trump proposed:
— Rebellious outsider Donald Trump details standard-fare Republican economic plan, Paul Waldman, the Washington Post, this afternoon
Well, you already know what he said. You knew what he said before he said it. Long before. Months before. So I won’t bother with the bullet points. After Waldman runs through them, he says this:
I’m pretty sure that if tomorrow you asked Trump what was in the plan he discussed today, he wouldn’t be able to remember most of it. But that’s just the point: Trump isn’t about the details. If he becomes president, he’ll be outsourcing all that boring wonky stuff to the people around him — who will be most of the same people who would staff any Republican administration. Does anyone think Trump will be deep in the weeds figuring out whether the Labor Department’s budget should be cut by 26.3 percent or 26.4 percent, or whether this corporate subsidy can stay but that one has to go? Of course not.
If you’re a Republican, that’s good news, and it gets to the heart of why it’s still rational for so many Republicans to support him despite all the despicable things he says and does. Trump’s economic plan may contain a new idea or two somebody on his staff tossed in, and it does differ with the standard Republican fare on trade. But at its core, it’s what every Republican wants: lower taxes and less regulation for businesses. And if he were president, Trump would pretty much sign whatever legislation a Republican Congress sent him and let the people who care about policy take care of policy.
What would that leave him to do? As he said in Detroit, “When I’m president, we will start winning again. Bigly.” So there you go.
Clinton’s campaign has announced that she will give a response speech in Detroit on Thursday. The speech will be the easiest her speechwriter has ever written. Or should be. He should just lift parts of Trump’s speech. Verbatim. With attribution, of course. Not just to Trump, but also to Edgar Bergen.
That should take care of it. Bigly.
Finally came across an explanation for ‘bigly’. Seems like that is just Trump’s version of ‘Big League’ repeated over and over. Just like ‘Leicester’ is pronounced ‘Lester’ and the surname ‘St John’ is pronounced ‘SinJin’
I feel sad about the whole thing. Even: Sad! Because I kind of like ‘bigly’.But I do find it convincing.
I thought maybe it had something to do with piggly wiggly, since there’s a resemblance:
https://www.nerdkungfu.com/classic-piggly-wiggly-t-shirt/?gclid=CMu2sYfess4CFY86gQodue8Fmg
So this explanation is a bit disappointing.
We are so shafted. Two totally crap candidates are all we have to choose from.
Trump actually makes some good points in the speech. Hillary isn’t to be trusted with the TPP treaty, for instance. But he also demonstrates he’s an arrogant and ignorant dinosaur regarding Climate Change. His Base probably doesn’t mind the bit about the Death Tax, for they’ve had propaganda about that drummed into them for nearly forever, but it’s another small indication (among many others) Trump is for the Wealthy after all.
Everybody is dumping on Trump’s calling the published unemployment rate a “hoax”, and on that I disagree. The Powers That Be are lying about employment the same way they’re lying about the inflation rate being extremely low. Joe Sixpack lives with chronic underemployment while he watches prices rise (or packages shrink) (or quality decrease) constantly.
It may come down to a hell of a lot of people understanding they’re ‘screwed, blued, and tattooed’ by the people in power now. What do they have to lose with throwing the dice and trying to elect a new guy who claims to be on their side in terms they sometimes dimly understand? At the bottom parts of society – the one-in-seven households with a negative net worth – this may be a perfectly sane viewpoint.
http://www.whig.com/20160808/household-debt-concerns-economists-lenders#
i am just amazed at the “stuff” thrown at Trump. or that Trump said this or Trump said that. no doubt that he’s full of it. which is the what the Republican Party has always epitomised since Nixon, maybe even before Nixon, lol. Liars, Cheats, Thieves and Selling America out for a quick buck.
Just now, Bad and Crude Trump dares to say out loud all the things Republicans have said over and over again, except using Code Words and other “careful” ways that have always worked when they went about slitting the throats of American. For Profit, always for Profit.
it is just that now Trump violates all the “Republican Rules” and everyone is suddenly aghast at what Trump stands for, even the slime call the Republican Party. etiquette thrown out the window.. so fascinating to read the “oh my, did he really say that?” or “i’ve got a touch of the “vapors” due to Trump’s verbal leakage.
Neither part of the Money party is different other than their spokesman, Hillary or Trump. both horrible excuses for zombies let loose upon the American landscape. But Trump is decried near and far as beyond any and all value. Meanwhile Hillary, aka Ms. Goldman Sachs, has already sold out Americans via her Foundation with her Big Dog Bill. The Clintons’ destructive capacity far and away leaves the Orange Monster in the dirt when it comes to doing quietly what Trump says openly.
just amazing how our “monsters” must speak nicely and respectfully before they tear us to bits and eat us. that is what is most striking about the “fear and loathing” Trump arouses. For all his money, lol, Trump obviously has no class. and the upper classes don’t want anything to do with him. lol.
so it is alright for the Clinton to kill us as long as they use grace and high class manners. And most importantly, as if Clinton will nominate someone to the Supreme Court that Goldman Sachs doesn’t like. yea, right. if you believe that , well, i’ve got some wetlands in West Texas.
a carefully prepared robot with barely hidden and unspoken revulsion for the “little People” vs a crude boorish off-putting oaf. There really is a difference, too. One is a a man and one is a woman.
creating a Frankenstein was never a good idea. but that’s where the money is.
Bev,
I hate to say it, but I blame you for the Bernards of the world.
Not fair.
But they were not here before.
Sorry Zach, but it isn’t coming down to anything you say. There is nothing left to lose,……………..really? Do you get the stupidity in that post? Your out of touch and it shows.
TPP is the biggest nothing in history on trade. There is nothing new there nor that hasn’t been done already. It means little. There is a clear reason why Clinton opposes it and the only way to fix it would drop it down the ‘to do list’ so fast, I would laugh.
Bernard, if you think Goldman Sachs actually matters, you are the biggest fool. Trump is a globalist moron and everybody knows it. His pathetic foreign saber rattling amid loving his rich globalist friends is why people dislike him. He is a flim flam man.
Did he really say bigly? Seriously? Reminds me of a tweet of his last week criticizing WaPo or NYT — “They don’t write good.”
I did see the shortest clip, which was more than I could stand. I almost felt pity for the guy — he cannot even read a speech good.
Bernard,
You forgot two pieces of “stuff” that wasn’t thrown at Trump but was thrown at the world by Trump:
“If we have nuclear weapons, why don’t we use them?” You won’t find any major party candidate having said that. He is a menace not just to the American Republic but to the world at large.
And then there is the constant lying:
“In American history, we’ve never had a major presidential candidate who fabricated facts with the regularity of Donald Trump,” said Douglas Brinkley, a history professor at Rice University. “He just simply makes up things.”
“There have been candidates who embellished reality. Ronald Reagan sometimes remembered things that he actually remembered from a movie. “Nixon lied on purpose. He was lying to advance an idea forward. Donald Trump doesn’t even know he’s doing it, it’s so much part of his modus operandi.”
“There’s something psychologically warped with someone who sees no distinction between facts and fiction at all. The sign of crazy is when someone believes his own bullshit. And he believes his own B.S.: Everything he says is true because he said it.”
Theda Skocpol, a government and sociology professor at Harvard, agreed that Trump’s dishonesties have set a new standard. “Trump lies constantly and shamelessly. I do think he is in new territory,” she said.”
“What can I say? We nominated a fabulist,” said one top Republican official privately. “There’s no defending that.”
William Ryan,
Washington (CNN) — “The emails mentioning Amiri were part of a tranche released by the State Department last year pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act request in the wake of the revelation that Clinton used a personal server to conduct official business. The FBI has said there is no direct evidence the server was hacked, noting such evidence would be hard to come by.
The State Department Monday denied any connection between the emails mentioning the delicate case and Amiri’s execution.
State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau told reporters “there was public reporting on this topic back in 2010,” referencing a news conference in which Clinton mentioned the scientist.
“This is not something that became public when the State Department released those emails,” she added, noting that none of the emails mentioning Amiri were classified or retroactively classified as such upon their release — as some emails sent to Clinton were — a sign the Amiri material was not considered too sensitive to be made public.”
Of course, you will argue that the State Department is engaged in a conspiracy to help Clinton and/or you know more about “what really happened” than they do.
“In American history, we’ve never had a major presidential candidate who fabricated facts with the regularity of Donald Trump,” said Douglas Brinkley, a history professor at Rice University. “He just simply makes up things.”
“There have been candidates who embellished reality. Ronald Reagan sometimes remembered things that he actually remembered from a movie. “Nixon lied on purpose. He was lying to advance an idea forward. Donald Trump doesn’t even know he’s doing it, it’s so much part of his modus operandi.”
“There’s something psychologically warped with someone who sees no distinction between facts and fiction at all. The sign of crazy is when someone believes his own bullshit. And he believes his own B.S.: Everything he says is true because he said it.”
Theda Skocpol, a government and sociology professor at Harvard, agreed that Trump’s dishonesties have set a new standard. “Trump lies constantly and shamelessly. I do think he is in new territory,” she said.”
“What can I say? We nominated a fabulist,” said one top Republican official privately. “There’s no defending that.”
Of course, you know more about American Presidential history than Douglas Brinkley, more about government and sociology than Theda Skocpol and have a better track on the truth than a top GOP official and/or they are also involved in a conspiracy to get HRC elected.
I congratulate you for your acquired wisdom and knowledge and intelligence greater than all of them put together.
*** “If we have nuclear weapons, why don’t we use them?” You won’t find any major party candidate having said that. He is a menace not just to the American Republic but to the world at large. ***
An extremely short memory on display here.
http://angrybearblog.strategydemo.com/2016/08/bursting-damn-and-its-sole-cause.html#comments
Why the change in names, Zach?
Thanks for the compliment Ms57 but it is a pity that so many are confused and stuck in the weeds of Washington’ failed policies of the past that will surely bring us more failure in the future. Trump is no saint nor is Clinton but I have to go with my gut tells me that Trump’s ideal-risks of Americanism are far better than what we will get from more globalism…You and HRC and the DNC represent more of the same from Washington. Trump represents a much higher positive change potential…I read the Harvard Business Review and even they are wrong at times as was Bill Clinton on “Free Trade” and Glass-Steagal…To me you must like and be happy with the way things are with big gov. globalism ,wage and wealth inequality and the economy … I’m not.
Where’s the proof, Zach?
William Ryan,
You didn’t respond to the comment, you just reiterated what you always say.
William Ryan,
“It doesn’t have to be anti, like the movement’s been for decades, so much as it has to be pro-white. It’s kinda hard to go and call us bigots, if we don’t go around and act like a bigot. That’s what the movement should contemplate. All right.”
Suhayda predicted Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton in the general election. “I think it’s gonna surprise the enemy, because, I think that they feel that the white working class, especially the male portion of the working class, and with him his female counterparts have basically thrown in the towel,” Suhayda said. “Given up hope of any politician again standing up for their interests.”
The American Nazi Party is a fringe group that grew out of that founded by George Lincoln Rockwell in 1959. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard who is running for the US Senate in Louisiana and has spoken favorably of Trump, was once a follower. This week, Duke told NPR: “As a United States senator, nobody will be more supportive of his legislative agenda, his supreme court agenda, than I will.”
In the “frequently asked questions” section of its website, the American Nazi Party defines itself: “We are National Socialists, although we use the designation ‘Nazi’, simply because at the present time, most Americans would not understand ‘WHAT’ a National Socialist ‘IS’, confusing us with some kind of Marxist ideology.
“NS are certainly NOT ‘supremacists’, rather we are SEPARATISTS – we believe that RACIAL SEPARATION is best for all concerned. White and non-White alike.”
Is that what you mean by Trump’s ideal of Americanism?
Having Paul Waldman tell us how Trump would govern is like having Michael Savage tell us about how HRC would govern.
Actually, it was Trump, not Waldman, who told us how he would govern. That’s what his speech was about. And in the speech he said, explicitly, that his tax proposal was taken from “the House Republicans'”–i.e., Paul Ryan’s. Trump’s three tax-bracket levels, are the same three in Ryan’s, and Trump himself pointed that out.
Ms57 please go take a look at todays TownHall.com article from Rachel Alexander or the article today from PaulcraigRoberts.org or the article today from WallStreetonParade.com…They shed much badly needed light everyday on the other side of “the untold story” that you previously thanked me for giving you but apparently do not really and objectivity pursued. That is my response to you comment and your distortion of Trump’s Americanism…Narrow minded speak about other people, normal minded people speak of events and such, intelligent people speak of new ideas such as a new Americanism rather than failed globalism which HRC has no new ideas… She can only speak as you many others are doing about Trumps bluster…
Was GLR a Jew? We know he was killed by one and most of the leadership was jewish. Literally, the entire National Alliance, Stormfront came out of that “movement'”. Why are so many whites identified by it?
William Ryan,
I did as you asked.
Town Hall? You must be kidding. It’s revealing that these are the people you heed. I’ve read TH before. Their columnists? Pat Buchanan, Phyllis Schlafly, Larry Kudlow, Thomas Sowell, Alan West, Cal Thomas… Rachel Alexander – “Clinton Body-Count or Left-Wing Conspiracy? Three With Ties to DNC Mysteriously Die.” Jesus Christ, man. That last one is worthy of PRC, whom I’ve been reading for the last 2 months on your recommendation; in my mind he lacks all credibility, though the links he provides have been very interesting, but he finds a conspiracy under every rock.
If those are the people who represent your world view, have at them – you’re a free man.
I like Pam Martens. I wish she’d stick to economics and finance. Today’s article is not believable, unless you are of a mind to believe that HRC has a secret army of hitmen she keeps somewhere to call on when she needs them. It’s the same paranoia and conspiracy theories about Vince Foster – a poor guy with depression so severe he drove to a park and shot himself. I know what depression like that feels like. I know what happens. His sister said earlier that he shot himself because he was depressed and she wished the GOP would let him RIP.
Now you want to infer conspiracy from the death of a process server. I worked at that as well. There is no one lower on the totem pole than the process server. All he cares about is getting a piece of paper in someone’s hands. If there is anyone “to be eliminated,” he is not the guy. It’s absurd. “Perkins Coie has both revenues and reputation at risk in this matter.” Do you seriously think killing a process server is going to protect a big law firm’s revenues and reputation. Ask yourself the reverse: how did this process server create that revenue and reputation in the first place? Process papers are not one and only copies. All you have to do is print up another copy and get it notarized. It’s nuts.
“As of this writing, the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for Washington, D.C. is not releasing the cause of death for Shawn Lucas.” Well, so the Medical Examiner’s office is part of the plot, and when they release the cause of death as a heart attack or drug overdose or he slipped in the shower, it then becomes a further piece of evidence. This is total bullshit. What is it with you guys? If something doesn’t turn out your way, it must be a conspiracy. If Trump doesn’t win the election, “it’s a rigged election, folks, it’s massive voter fraud.” What if he simply doesn’t get enough votes?”
At the very least, William, if you want to be truly informed, you have to widen your reading and treat everything you read with skepticism and a critical eye.
William Ryan,
I forgot to address “Americanism:” “Intelligent people speak of new ideas such as a new Americanism.” Modesty is a virtue, brother. Intelligent people also talk about history, or ought to know something about it before they raise themselves to the level of Intelligent people.”
What is Trumps Americanism? First, it has its roots in a movement in the ‘30’s championed by the likes of Charles Lindburgh and Henry Ford. Their Americanism was an effort to keep the US out of the brewing war in Europe. They admired the new Germany Hitler had created and, not surprisingly, they were outspoken anti-Semites. Trump hooked on to that label in total ignorance of its earlier incarnation, but in surprising ways, despite his ignorance, it is an old “new” idea. He sounds a lot like Pat Buchanan, who says outright that the GOP is the party of white people.
What do I know about Trump’s Americanism? He wants to build a 1500-mile-long wall from Brownsville TX to San Diego – that’s how he got started of course, though you don’t hear much about it now – to keep out all those Mexicans, that race of murderers and rapists. He wants to create a special police force (like the Gestapo) to round up 11 million people and drive them over the border. He wants to ban all Muslims from entering the country. He wants all American citizens who practice Islam to enter their names on a national registry. He wants to “monitor the actions” of mosques across the country. He wants to tear up NATO. If an allied member of NATO comes under attack, he wants to check the books first to see if they are paid up. He wants to see Japan and South Korea and other states develop their own nuclear arsenals. He asks “if we have nukes, why can’t we use them.”
If that’s your idea of Americanism, if that’s the kind of country you want to live in, I’m going to fight you tooth and nail all along the way with everything I’ve got. Your version of Americanism is a cancer on America. It’s “take no prisoners,” buddy.
“TPP is the biggest nothing in history on trade.”
“Bernard, if you think Goldman Sachs actually matters, you are the biggest fool.”
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That’s pretty amazing stuff. It led me into some idle speculation that some folks on the West Bank of Palestine have been pressed into service to shill for Hillary. People who are totally clueless about what’s going on in the US. If that’s not the case, Hillary really ought to do a comb-out of her internet labor force. This is almost beyond incompetent.
Another gentleman here posts non-stop for Hillary. If he has had anything bad to say about the woman, I sure missed it.
Israel REALLY wants Hillary, so maybe my speculation isn’t all that far-out. But it could be lazy incompetence.
Ms57 you are against everything that Trump and all Americans need to do to make us prosperous again. We need balanced trade not the one way free trade. We need much better control of immigration and who is coming into this country taking jobs. We need more regulation of Wall St. and less regulation of small business. We need smaller gov. footprint and much stronger military that demands NATO pay their fair share. We need to get out of the WTO and build the wall because the Obama administration did not enforce the current immigration laws. Believe me you, many others and HRC are doing the dirty work and are the mail carriers of the oligarchs as many other unknowingly and unwittingly are…The oligarch do not care if you are a democrat or republican as long as you carry their mail of world dominance, control, and unchecked globalism that has produced huge wealth and wage inequality and next will be loss of our sovereignty…Ironically the democrats do not want to any of the things that we need to do. Trump does and will stand up to the oligarchs…
William Ryan,
All I can tell you is what I see.
You back a candidate who is a compulsive liar and a sociopath, a man driven by the idea that he will be the same kind of “strong leader” projecting “power” as he saw in Saddam Hussein and sees in Putin and Kim Jong-un. Among your fellow supporters are the American Nazi Party. Trump’s “Americanism” can best be summarized by a statement he made just today: “”If [Hillary Clinton] gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.” That is encouraging people to assassinate a politician he is in danger of losing to. If you don’t like that picture, deal with it – that’s who you are.
I don’t know if you embrace it or not but you are a reactionary:
a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante, the previous political state of society, which they believe possessed characteristics (discipline, respect for authority, etc.) that are negatively absent from the contemporary status quo of a society. He is illiberal, actively scorns the principles and thought of the Enlightenment – which profoundly guided the thought of the Founding Fathers – and, as Trump demonstrated in his statement today, not above using violence to achieve political goals. Hitler’s Nazis were reactionaries. Mussolini’s Fascists were reactionaries. The American Nazi Party is reactionary. And there goes William Ryan marching right along.
Nice company you keep.
If it bothers you that 100% of the commenters here aren’t pro-Hillary why not head over to the Daily Kos where any positive mention of another candidate gets you banned instantly.
Bronco,
I’ve got news for you, pal — I’m not pro-Hillary. And I don’t give a good goddamn whether you troll here or at the Daily Kos.
Your man Trump is now casually alluding to killing his opponent. How’s that make you feel? Never heard you object yet to anything Trump has done. Do you stand behind him now? Are you calling for HRC to be assassinated, too? Fucking swine…
*** Your man Trump is now casually alluding to killing his opponent. How’s that make you feel? ***
Trump is threatening to murder Hillary? Have they arrested him yet?
Fascist swine.
Ms57 have you gone ballistic? If you really look at the facts it is HRC who is the fascist who has been leaving a trail of dead people where ever she goes. I do not believe that Trump is as you say. If given a chance he will turn the economy for the better for all Americans. All your prognosticating is pure conjecture of fear mongering as Trump has done nothing of the sort only blusters with great bliss like all billionaire seem to do and are all use to doing. Trumps tone, temporment and ideas are fine and what we need today as Americans. HRC is clueless and will only lead us into the next war and civil unrest revolution. Do not let his bluster frighten you, that is just who Trump is and must quickly learn to tone down. No need for any insults and name calling here…
Well, one good thing.
The blog had to have just hit rock bottom.
Nowhere to go but up.
You just join the parade of the American Nazi Party and Pat Buchanan’s white party, William, fall in behind the limo-riding billionaire populist. It’s your choice. But if you think The Donald gives a rat’s ass about you, you’re delusional.
It’s the Swastika or the Stars and Stripes, pal. You decide.
Well, if the establishment Demonrats and establishment Repubicans are agin ‘im, then I’m fer ‘im!
lol, Zach. Trade is the biggest nothing in history. It was the deregulation of capital markets and the move to a consumption based economy that began offshoring.
Sorry MS, but never bring Charles Lindbergh up with these other twats. Henry Ford was a globaiist shill that used people for years. Ford was part of the Wall Street team that brought Lenin and his “jews” together with the gentile in the Bolshevik party and created the “Soviet Union”. Ford Motors became the Soviet’s main suppliers.
Pat Buchanan is a piece of anti-white shit. He wants to force white’s into a Judeo-dictatorship via global market statism. Just like them all. His ties to Catholic organizations and their main financiers, the Rothchilds via the Permindex corporation via the Knights of Malta should be outed.
Trump is a Rothschild shill who also brought Putin to power. Sorry Zach, you are a pathetic piece of shit. Who also gave GLR and eventually “Dr. Pierce” their original loans…………oh my god, it was Permindex.
Notice the elite want to control what white people believe. If they become to anti-Christian/Abrahamic and NOT progressive, then that is bad, very very bad. I am not the only one to notice this mind control.
Not much of a student of logic I see. Whether a “demonrat” or an establishment Republican, no one on the fire brigade roots for the arsonist. Substitute Satan for “‘im” and your foolish conclusion becomes apparent.
rage,
You are a moronic, white nationalist, neo-fascist scumbag. The dumbass who knows the “real” truth of history — Ford…Lenin…Jews (always the Jews with you guys)… Laughable…
Run,
Hate to tell you, friend, but your page is infested with trolls. Somehow or another, Angry Bear has found itself on a list of blogs to be attacked by Breitbartian trolls and now outright Nazis. Ilsm belongs to a third category — nationalist, pro-Putin Russians.
The Breitbart trolls are the ones who echo the same unhinged anti-Clinton comments every day — conspiracies, trails of bodies behind her, relentless pro-Trump propaganda, refusal to address the meat of comments that critique their “thinking…” The Nazi troll is quoted justed a few comments above this one.
Ilsm is a special case and I’ve gathered a bunch of comments from him to prove the case. Sorry to tell you, Run.
‘Substitute Satan for “‘im” and your foolish conclusion becomes apparent.’
No — the demonrats are FER him! 😀
Ms57 I believe that you have lost all sensibility, credibility and respect with your over the top insults and name calling. This is what the demorats resort to when you start to pin hem down on HRC crimes and corruption. They can only squirm, lie and become ugly with complete loss of all civility There is nothing anyone can say or do to convince or help you to see the light of your false-wrong side of history thinking on HRC. You want all us to be kept in the dark as you are about truth and reality. I wait for your next inflammatory remark but Clinton’s only economic plan is to make their foundation richer be any means to where we become a purely fake shadow government of false wars and unchecked government corruption that will forever indebt the American people…Name calling and personal insulting only reveals you lack of intelligence and that is why you are a such a strong HRC supporter…