Pickett, Napoleon, Custer (1876) went at superior opponents holding good position.
Same for JEB S. on Pickett’s day where he ran up on a rising Union cavalry, Lee did not have enough artillery ammunition (or exploiting reserves) for the situation.
i was going to point that out. “history rhymes.” JEB Stuart was supposed to appear behind the Union line with 7000 cavalry while Pickett was charging the front. At least that’s how one historian explains Pickett’s charge, otherwise unexplainable by a general (Lee) who was considered a master of tactics and strategy.
I did not hear about Lee’s reserves or artillery, except that Southern artillery was notoriously inaccurate because of poor manufacture of ammuntion.
And the guy who stopped JEB Stuart was the boy general Armstrong Custer, who faced about the same odds against Stuart as he was to face at Little Big Horn.
Was it true that both calveries were absent from Gettysburg and “chasing” each other? So Lee knew he could wait no longer…Also was it true that the North had spiral grooved rifle barrels and the south did not? Was it true that the North had many more pistol grip revolvers than the South?… I read PCR. org take on the South battle flag the other day and it did represent all those hard fighting Lee soldiers but this is not what this flag has come to represent today. I think the battle flag it has become a symbol of racism that some are using to hide their racism behind…Lets get real…
the trouble with “let’s get real” is that it is usually said by people who don’t know the facts but have strong opinions.
i have read a few accounts of the civil war, they don’t mention the factors you mention. for example, though Stuart was absent during the early part of Gettysburg with his cavalry wandering off on a tangent when Lee needed them, they did show up in time to … according to one author… attempt to circle the Union line and appear behind the Union at the same time Pickett was charging from the front, but they were driven off by mostly Union cavalry led by Custer.
other authors have mentioned that Confederate artillery was notoriously innacurate… because ammunition was not well standardized.
anyway keep on reading. you will eventually learn something. but remember not to trust anything you read or hear or see with your own eyes.
the flag may represent racism to you. and the flag may by displayed by racists, but it does not represent racism to anyone i know.
there are much more serious issues, including racism, to be worried about without wasting time and making enemies arguing over a flag.
Coberly you made the same disrespectful comments to Kai a while back. I’m not a civil war expert but only recall what I have read in the past…My two cents is my view that I choose to share with others. We can agree to disagree respectfully right? I have preferred sources of information and opinions and this site is one as do you of them but not because we always agree on everything. Please go see PCR.org and Globalreaserch.com, Wall Street on Parade.com and CNBC.com for greater perspectives and less incumbency on geo-political-economics as more to the why and how things are happening. We all need a much broader deeper dive view with much less biases….The flag is a non issue that belongs only in museums and historical battle fields to honor the fallen brave southern soldiers…Trump has my vote because he is not afraid to speak the truth, take a stand, does what he says, can be trusted to actually “do” something, cannot be bought and will stand up to China. I believe he can bring America back from some of the corruption and misguidedness. . What you say?
i offered information that i have read that does not perfectly support your information that you have read.
i also offered my observation about “lets get real.”
i think it is impossible to talk to people who think they are being disrespected when they are not even being disagreed with as such.
there is an overwhelming tendency among humans to believe what they want to believe, and then to disbelieve everything that tends to disconfirm what they have previously accepted as truth.
this applies to me as well as to you. with a great effort some people can overcome this tendency in usually small ways for short times.
Colerby perhaps you should read more so that you to can learn something. No disrespect intended…But you are right not to distort truth with economic “bubbles” or “in the box” thinking. I was wondering if you or other economist have any knowledge of “Kieritsu” or the “Sunao Mind” thinking? I do struggle at times to read and understand some of the deep complexity views and opinions of some economist thinking. I do like and agree with the many economic views of Alan Nassar.org of the new normal thinking on Kapitalism….
there is a lot to know. a lot more than anyone can hope to learn. and a lot that is not true, and a lot that is not worth knowing.
best we can do is try to hear each other and sort out what we can, and not either hurt too many feelings or think we know more than we know.
no doubt i am wrong about many things, but there is only so much time in life, and only so much intelligence given to each of us. i try to listen to what i hear, but most people don’t make a case that inspires me to try to learn more about what they believe.
On the other hand “Pickett’s Charge” works marginally better than “Kamikaze Attack”.
So Jeb-su has THAT going for him.
Jeb! hoping this time the roles be reversed.
Cemetery ridge, Waterloo, Little Big Horn………..
Pickett, Napoleon, Custer (1876) went at superior opponents holding good position.
Same for JEB S. on Pickett’s day where he ran up on a rising Union cavalry, Lee did not have enough artillery ammunition (or exploiting reserves) for the situation.
Hope is not strategy…….
ilsm
i was going to point that out. “history rhymes.” JEB Stuart was supposed to appear behind the Union line with 7000 cavalry while Pickett was charging the front. At least that’s how one historian explains Pickett’s charge, otherwise unexplainable by a general (Lee) who was considered a master of tactics and strategy.
I did not hear about Lee’s reserves or artillery, except that Southern artillery was notoriously inaccurate because of poor manufacture of ammuntion.
And the guy who stopped JEB Stuart was the boy general Armstrong Custer, who faced about the same odds against Stuart as he was to face at Little Big Horn.
Was it true that both calveries were absent from Gettysburg and “chasing” each other? So Lee knew he could wait no longer…Also was it true that the North had spiral grooved rifle barrels and the south did not? Was it true that the North had many more pistol grip revolvers than the South?… I read PCR. org take on the South battle flag the other day and it did represent all those hard fighting Lee soldiers but this is not what this flag has come to represent today. I think the battle flag it has become a symbol of racism that some are using to hide their racism behind…Lets get real…
Ryan
the trouble with “let’s get real” is that it is usually said by people who don’t know the facts but have strong opinions.
i have read a few accounts of the civil war, they don’t mention the factors you mention. for example, though Stuart was absent during the early part of Gettysburg with his cavalry wandering off on a tangent when Lee needed them, they did show up in time to … according to one author… attempt to circle the Union line and appear behind the Union at the same time Pickett was charging from the front, but they were driven off by mostly Union cavalry led by Custer.
other authors have mentioned that Confederate artillery was notoriously innacurate… because ammunition was not well standardized.
anyway keep on reading. you will eventually learn something. but remember not to trust anything you read or hear or see with your own eyes.
the flag may represent racism to you. and the flag may by displayed by racists, but it does not represent racism to anyone i know.
there are much more serious issues, including racism, to be worried about without wasting time and making enemies arguing over a flag.
Coberly you made the same disrespectful comments to Kai a while back. I’m not a civil war expert but only recall what I have read in the past…My two cents is my view that I choose to share with others. We can agree to disagree respectfully right? I have preferred sources of information and opinions and this site is one as do you of them but not because we always agree on everything. Please go see PCR.org and Globalreaserch.com, Wall Street on Parade.com and CNBC.com for greater perspectives and less incumbency on geo-political-economics as more to the why and how things are happening. We all need a much broader deeper dive view with much less biases….The flag is a non issue that belongs only in museums and historical battle fields to honor the fallen brave southern soldiers…Trump has my vote because he is not afraid to speak the truth, take a stand, does what he says, can be trusted to actually “do” something, cannot be bought and will stand up to China. I believe he can bring America back from some of the corruption and misguidedness. . What you say?
Ryan
i did not think i was being disrespectful.
i offered information that i have read that does not perfectly support your information that you have read.
i also offered my observation about “lets get real.”
i think it is impossible to talk to people who think they are being disrespected when they are not even being disagreed with as such.
there is an overwhelming tendency among humans to believe what they want to believe, and then to disbelieve everything that tends to disconfirm what they have previously accepted as truth.
this applies to me as well as to you. with a great effort some people can overcome this tendency in usually small ways for short times.
but very few people even make the effort.
Colerby perhaps you should read more so that you to can learn something. No disrespect intended…But you are right not to distort truth with economic “bubbles” or “in the box” thinking. I was wondering if you or other economist have any knowledge of “Kieritsu” or the “Sunao Mind” thinking? I do struggle at times to read and understand some of the deep complexity views and opinions of some economist thinking. I do like and agree with the many economic views of Alan Nassar.org of the new normal thinking on Kapitalism….
Ryan
there is a lot to know. a lot more than anyone can hope to learn. and a lot that is not true, and a lot that is not worth knowing.
best we can do is try to hear each other and sort out what we can, and not either hurt too many feelings or think we know more than we know.
no doubt i am wrong about many things, but there is only so much time in life, and only so much intelligence given to each of us. i try to listen to what i hear, but most people don’t make a case that inspires me to try to learn more about what they believe.
good luck.