Does Trump Get To Decide Who Is An American?
– by Joyce Vance @ Civil Discourse
The stakes are high, even though the Supreme Court won’t be deciding, at least not yet, whether Trump’s order to end birthright citizenship is constitutional.
Tomorrow (written on May 14), the Supreme Court will hear oral argument in the Birthright Citizenship Case, Trump v. Casa, Inc. We’re here because Donald Trump is intent on usurping as much of the power of government as he can into his own hands. And what is more fundamental than assigning citizenship? We know that Trump wants people from Mexico, Central America, South America, the Middle East, and Asia out of the country. But he’s okay with white Afrikaners from South Africa, even willing to bring them in, give them benefits, and put them on a fast track to citizenship. Deporting people to gulags in El Salvador and abducting students and others from their neighborhoods are part and parcel of this. Trump is, quite literally, trying to define the complexion of America.
Tomorrow morning, the Supreme Court takes up three cases consolidated as Trump v. CASA, Inc. I wrote to you about the case Sunday evening. It’s notable because although we call this the “birthright citizenship case,” the Court will not be considering whether Trump’s use of an executive order to strike it from the Constitution will pass muster. If you missed the newsletter on Sunday, it explains they will be considering whether a federal district judge in one district can issue an injunction that is binding on the entire country.
Even though the issue in front of the Supreme Court tomorrow isn’t whether Donald Trump can do away with birthright citizenship, it’s worth our time to consider that underlying issue ahead of tomorrow’s oral argument. It may well come up in questioning; we may even get hints about how one or more judges are leaning. It’s also important to consider the context tomorrow, the reason these parties are in front of the Supreme Court in this case. They’re there because Donald Trump thinks he, and he alone, can walk beyond the boundaries set by our Constitution and our laws and reshape the country in his own image. Last night we discussed the Supreme Court’s tolerance for Donald Trump right up to the point where the security of federal judges is at stake. Tomorrow, we may learn about their patience with his abandonment of the pretense of caring about the rule of law when it interferes with policies he wants to put in place, or really, as we watch him operate, deals that he wants to do.
The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” It’s the source of “birthright citizenship,” which makes anyone born on U.S. soil, regardless of the immigration status of their parents, a citizen.
So how does Trump get around that? His lawyers have seized on some of the language in the amendment, “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” It has historically been used to carve out limited exceptions to birthright citizenship, like the one for children of foreign diplomats who are born while their parents are working in the United States. Because diplomats and their families are not “subject to” U.S. jurisdiction and have immunity from criminal prosecution and even civil suits for official acts, their children, even if born here, do not become U.S. citizens. The exception has been narrowly construed since the provision was adopted. Donald Trump’s effort to excise it from the Constitution is inconsistent with our history and tradition in this regard.
Congress ratified the 14th Amendment in July 1868 after the Civil War ended, ensuring that birthright citizenship would protect former slaves and their children by granting them U.S. citizenship. Before that, the Supreme Court had ruled in the notorious 1857 Dred Scott decision that enslaved people and their descendants were not citizens, were not eligible to become citizens, and were not entitled to any protection under U.S. laws. The 13th and 14th Amendments overruled Dred Scott, and the promise of automatic citizenship they carry for those born in this country has endured. It has been applied for 155 years and counting, including by the Supreme Court, without regard to the parents’ immigration status. The 14th Amendment prohibits states from overriding the privileges it provides, in this case citizenship, or from enforcing laws that would revoke birthright citizenship.
According to Donald Trump, “We’re going to end that because it’s ridiculous.” That’s what he told NBC’s Kristen Welker during an interview for “Meet the Press.” But his executive order doing away with birthright citizenship is inconsistent with the plain language of the 14th Amendment, which the Supreme Court has always interpreted as doing precisely what its language suggests: guaranteeing citizenship to people born in this country.
Trump himself has given away much of the game by bringing Afrikaners, white South Africans who will receive refugee status and a fast track toward citizenship, into the country while others fleeing persecution and war are being rejected. The racism is transparent. There is no evidence to support Trump’s claims that Afrikaners’ land is being taken away from them by South Africa’s majority Black government.
Now it’s up to the Supreme Court. Tomorrow, they’ll consider the nationwide injunction issue in this case, but it will inevitably be back for them to make the call about whether Trump can undo the law, even after taking an oath to uphold it. For seven of the Justices, that should be a bridge too far, but it’s hard to predict anything with this Court. We may have a better sense after tomorrow’s argument.
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As distasteful as it may sound to the hysterically anti-historical, we should remember that slaves were legal immigrants. So, if we want to observe the intent of the law instead of the letter of the law with no regard to historical relevance, then legal immigrants are our contemporary slave labor and their children should be entitled to birthright citizenship. Illegal immigrants are victims of reality that flee one oppression only to live under a different oppression wherein they must choose to which criminals that they prefer to be victims. Harsh penalties for any of US that hire illegal immigrants on the one hand and a far more bold approach to legal immigration, path to citizenship, and especially refugee status would collectively settle the bifurcated objections of our idiot-illogical political establishment, but a hopeless cause in the face of self-righteous narcissism.
Does not apply to rich, fat, white south afrikkkaners …
not sure that many Americans would be citizens if it wasnt by place of birth. cause the question then becomes if your parent can prove that they are Americans because of their Americans and their parents were Americans as far back at the late 1700s. course that becomes very difficult
@david,
Most European nations, including France, Germany, Italy, and Spain, do not offer automatic citizenship based solely on birth within their territory. Doesn’t seem to be a problem for them. As for the US, it hasn’t been a problem here until Trump came along.
Maybe leave birthright citizenship as it is currently understood and instead, eliminate the concept of anchor babies. ‘No, you having an American citizen child does not extend your visa or prevent your deportation’ and ‘family reunification only applies to immigrants and it says here you were born in Dallas so you aren’t an immigrant.’ Lots of these kids will be great Americans, but if mom, dad, older siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles are looking to do an end run around the immigration process, well shut that thinking off.
Lets understand the rights of being born in the US and also those rights of the parent(s).
And the parents?
“Can I Stay in the U.S. if My Baby Is Born in America?”
If a child is born on U.S. soil, they are automatically granted U.S. citizenship by virtue of the “birthright citizenship” principle enshrined in the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This means that the child becomes a U.S. citizen regardless of the immigration status of their parents. This legal provision has significant implications for families who may be in the U.S. without proper documentation or on temporary visas.
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Does My Child’s Birthplace Impact My Immigration Application?
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