Open thread October 18, 2022

Voters See Democracy in Peril, but Saving It Isn’t a Priority

NY Times – Oct 18

A New York Times/Siena College poll found that other problems have seized voters’ focus — even as many do not trust this year’s election results and are open to anti-democratic candidates. 

Voters overwhelmingly believe American democracy is under threat, but seem remarkably apathetic about that danger, with few calling it the nation’s most pressing problem, according to a New York Times/Siena College poll.

In fact, more than a third of independent voters and a smaller but noteworthy contingent of Democrats said they were open to supporting candidates who reject the legitimacy of the 2020 election, as they assigned greater urgency to their concerns about the economy than to fears about the fate of the country’s political system. 

The doubts about elections that have infected American politics since the 2020 contest show every sign of persisting well into the future, the poll suggested: Twenty-eight percent of all voters, including 41 percent of Republicans, said they had little to no faith in the accuracy of this year’s midterm elections. 

Political disagreements appear to be seeping into the fabric of everyday life. Fourteen percent of voters said political views revealed a lot about whether someone is a good person, while 34 percent said it revealed a little. Nearly one in five said political disagreements had hurt relationships with friends or family. …

The poll showed that voters filtered their faith in democracy through a deeply partisan lens. A majority of voters in both parties identified the opposing party as a “major threat to democracy.”

Most Republicans said the dangers included President Biden, the mainstream media, the federal government and voting by mail. Most Democrats named Donald J. Trump, while large shares of the party’s voters also said the Supreme Court and the Electoral College were threats to democracy.

Seventy-one percent of all voters said democracy was at risk — but just 7 percent identified that as the most important problem facing the country. …

(Does this suggest the power of memes to alter politics?)

just another case where US bullying is backfiring….

US ‘oil for security’ formula faces setback as Saudi Arabia shows interest in joining BRICS – Global Times

Amid an intensifying spat with the US on oil production, Saudi Arabia has expressed its “desire” to join BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa), a move Chinese experts view as a setback for Washington’s “oil for security” approach toward the Middle East and its increasingly reckless interference in other countries’ affairs.   Citing South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, South Africa’s local radio station ABC reported on Tuesday that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, who is also Saudi Arabia’s prime minister, “did express Saudi Arabia’s desire to be part of BRICS,” and Saudi Arabia is “not the only country” seeking BRICS membership.   Ramaphosa paid a state visit to Saudi Arabia last week, during which the two countries signed agreements and memorandums of understanding worth about $15 billion, Reuters reported. South Africa will hold the rotating BRICS presidency in 2023. Saudi Arabia’s reported interest in joining BRICS comes as the country is locked in a diplomatic spat with the US over oil production.