Open thread Jan. 4, 2022 Dan Crawford | January 4, 2022 6:58 am Comments (25) | Digg Facebook Twitter |
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Does anyone else see Kathy Hochul as a very viable presidential candidate in 2024?
Not remotely close. Zero national presence
She doesn’t have a national presence yet, but that could change quickly. She is heading into 22 as the Democratic Governor of the second largest state controlled by Democrats. Governors have done well since 1980, Reagan, Clinton, Bush. Senators typically struggle because they have to account for many votes on hard issues, whereas Governors are mostly administrators but can also push their own agenda. Obama was an outlier, only a Senator for two years when he started running for President, so few votes in his short national career. And he was the anti-war candidate in 07 and 08 when the country was very sick of the Iraq war, plus he had a fantastic campaign apparatus. Trump was another kind of outlier, the ultimate non politician, with no votes or political track record.
Looking at the 2024 field, Biden will be 82, Sanders 82, Warren 75.
other than that she’s a governor of a big Democratic state and younger than Trump, Biden, Sanders, and Warren, what are the reasons you’d think she’d be a viable presidential candidate?
Exactly what could she do in the next 18 months to gain a national presence?
Hey Jim, I’ll play along. It’s so nice to see a hint of some new original discussion here other than rehashing postings of COVID news articles and other mainstream news briefs which seem to have dominated.
I don’t know much about Kathy, but if, if, if there were an opening for a fresh new candidate in 2024, she would have to compete with my favorite future possibility…
Folks not familiar with the new Infrastructure Czar, Mitch Landrieu, 61, should listen to this 2017 speech for an education in what leadership looks like. Think of 2024 & the future of America.
Bright spot on the horizon. Former New Orleans Mayor (8 years) and Lieutenant Governor Louisiana (6 years). Author of “In the Shadow of Statues: A White Southerner Confronts History“.
The infrastructure position could give him the nationwide exposure he needs to move into a 2024 Presidential candidate, should Biden decide not to run (and he should) . He is a person that I think could pull together a national coalition of white & black Dems, Independents and even the “never-Trumper” crowd that could inspire the country, break through the polarization logjam and beat any Trump or Trump-backed run for President.
Have you read her background?
I’m trying to learn more about Kathy Hochul. What I find appealing at first glance is that she, like Joe Biden, has a connection to a demographic that is slipping away from the Democratic Party. She is from Buffalo, New York, one of six children of an Irish American family. She worked for Senator Patrick Moynihan, and served briefly in Congress. She was elected Lt. Governor of New York in 2014, and became Governor in August.
It looks to me like the Democrats will need to win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin in 2024 to remain in contention. Thus, my interest in Democratic candidates that I think can do well in the Midwest, with moderate Democrats and independents.
I would characterize Hochul as a moderate Democrat. Her votes on various issues are available at Vote Smart: The Voter’s Self Defense System – Vote Smart
For example, in 2012 she had a 100% Sierra Club rating, while her ADA rating was 30%. I would take her record in her brief time in Congress with some caution. One, I think the entire Democratic Party has moved, particularly on climate and taxation. The other is that it’s ten years later and she now has lots of executive experience in New York state government, which may have also affected her outlook on governance.
I was reading her information on Wiki. The only thing I would be leery of at this time is her being Catholic. There was a time in the past when people really thought politicians who were Catholic would be taking orders from the Pope. We laughed it off. Now we have SCOTUS which is intensely to the right and religious. Roe v Wade is hanging by a thread.
She appears to be qualified. When was the last time a governor ran for the Presidency? Rockefeller?
When JFK ran for President, it was a big deal he was a Catholic. He even needed to make a speech about his independence from Rome. Joe Biden is our second Catholic president. It has hardly come up as an issue, except for some conservative U.S. Bishops trying to deny him communion at Mass.
I think Rockefeller was the last NY Governor to run for President, although there was always a push on Mario Cuomo to run. In the last Democratic primary in 2020, four Governors ran for President: Deval Patrick, Steve Bullock, Jay Inslee and John Hickenlooper.
just a short excerpt from a much longer article…
fwiw, from a normally meticulous blogger i’ve followed for ~10 years who has a problem with the mainstream Covid narrative:
<a href=”https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-joe-biden-business-florida-donald-trump-509e1d6da26c2f094b86de5687df7d79″>Trump reschedules ‘airing of grievances</a>
Trump reschedules ‘airing of grievances’
Massachusetts is one of the few states reporting breakthrough cases:
that said, there’s still a lot we don’t know; those who are “fully vaccinated” had two shots at least two weeks ago, but we don’t know how long ago; the Israeli experience was that Pfizer effectiveness wanes quite a bit after 6 months, and i’ve yet to see a breakdown of how long ago those with such infections were vaccinated….likewise, except for a few high profile cases like Ayanna Pressley and Elizabeth Warren, we don’t know how many of these breakthrough infectees had also received a booster shot..
here’s a study providing a breakdown of breakthrough infections by vaccine:
New report on 1.23 million breakthrough symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections by vaccine –Several vaccines have been developed against the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) to curb the ongoing coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. As of December 28, 2021, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have reported at least 77.6% of the U.S. population over the age of five have received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccineA new research letter published in JAMA Network Open evaluates whether the estimated vaccine effectiveness changes against infection over time in an effort to help inform public health policy and clinical practices.The results indicated that out of the 1,237,097 individuals included in the study, 59.2% were women, 40.7% were men, and 0.1% were unknown. The study also involved diverse groups that included Asians, Black or African Americans, White, Hispanic, Alaska Natives, Pacific Islanders, and American Indian individuals. Of the vaccinated individuals, 27.1% received the BNT162b2 vaccine, 16.8% received the mRNA-1273 vaccine, and 4% received the JNJ-78436735 vaccine. The results reported that individuals who received the messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) vaccines had the lowest incidence rate, while unvaccinated individuals had the highest. The unvaccinated individuals were found to have 412%, 287%, and 159% more infections as compared to those who had received the mRNA1273, BNT162b2, or JNJ-78436735 vaccines, respectively.
A Long, Hard Year for Republicans Who Voted to Impeach After Jan. 6
(So sad. They should just switch parties, yes?)
(And what about these Senators who voted to impeach Trump after Jan 6?)
7 GOP Senators Voted To Convict Trump
Thus proving once again that the GOP is no longer a party, it’s a Trump cult. Shame.
That these people do not have the courage to simply become Democrats is arguably less disturbing than the likelihood that GOP political power in the Red states will likely result in the tyrant/monster Trump retaking the presidency in 2024.
By flipping (hijacking?) the vote in 3 or 4 pivotal states.
Rachael Rollins to be sworn in Monday as US attorney for Boston
Rollins discusses her confirmation as US attorney for Mass., in TV interview, and threats she has faced