Open thread June 11, 2021 Dan Crawford | June 11, 2021 7:23 am Comments (32) | Digg Facebook Twitter |
How funny would it be if the new bipartisan infrastructure bill gets filibustered?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/10/us/politics/infrastructure-biden-senate.html?smid=tw-share (Obviously, a better chance of passage if the ‘bi-partisan committee’ was doubled in size, with 10 Dem members & 10 GOP. That might assure a 60 vote majority in the Senate.)
(Any ‘infrastructure spending plan’ – or as Joe Biden says – ‘Jobs Program’ is understood to be largely beneficial to the Dem base – and must be resisted to the bitter end by the GOP.)
Price increases of 25-30% in Plane Tickets & Used Cars. Other items, not so much.
“Five Democrats and five Republicans announced a plan that would be fully paid for, though they did not offer details. Many lawmakers remained skeptical that it would be approved.”
Sinema & Manchin are already in the infrastructure group, so instead of doubling the size, it might be more feasible to just add 5 more senators from the GOP.
NEW VOTING RIGHTS TWIST Interesting article in The Bulwark exposes the need to amend the Electoral Count Act of 1887, as part of the whole voting rights effort. This is the Act that calls for the January 6th meeting and the supposed perfunctory Congressional approval which precipitated the insurrection.
Link: https://thebulwark.com/dont-cry-for-h-r-1/ The Act is a literal joke and a nightmare of legal mumbo-jumbo which is discussed in this article. It is in serious need of amendments and clarifications. Frankly I had just assumed that this was addressed in HR1/S1. It is actually Democratic malpractice that amendments to this Act were not included.
So now I would suggest the following steps to passing voting rights legislation.
1. Strip down S1 and focus on just making it easy, convenient and fair for people to vote and to override Republican voter suppression efforts. Get rid of the other stuff for now which needs further discussion and consideration.
2. Amend the Lewis bill to apply preclearance to all states. Manchin & Murkowski have suggested this bipartisan amendment.
3. Amend & clarify the Electoral Count Act to exclude any Congressional override of certified state elections.
4. Combine 1,2, & 3 into one new Voting Rights bill.
5. Put the bill to a vote of the Senate.
6. If Republicans filibuster the bill which they undoubtedly will; carve out a “voting rights exception” to the filibuster.
7. Convince Manchin and other doubters there is no other way to save our democracy and free and fair elections. Pass the bill with 50 votes + VP.
I had no problem with this! 🙂
(Sorry, NO PARAGRAPH BREAKS. Frustrating.)
As of yesterday, I showed them it was not working for subscribers. They are working on it.
Jp, Good ideas, but not worth the time it took to write them. 1. Manchin has been firm in saying that he will not go along with reducing the filibuster by carving out exceptions. In his time in the Senate there have been two such votes. He voted against both of them, one of them from his own party.2. The Lewis bill is DOA in the Supreme Court if it even happens. They will use the same “logic” to kill it as they did in killing the Voting Rights Act. 3, 4, 5 and 6 will not happen unless, by some miracle 7 happens.
line 1 line 2 which result do we get on this thread?
EMichael, ¶Hope I didn’t waste my time. #7 above is possible. Actually, it has to be possible if we want to save the U.S. democracy. ¶Manchin and Murkowski also said in a letter to Congressional Members, “Protecting Americans’ access to democracy has not been a partisan issue for the past 56 years, and we must not allow it to become one now. . . Inaction is not an option. Congress must come together — just as we have done time and again — to reaffirm our longstanding bipartisan commitment to free, accessible, and secure elections for all… We can do this. We must do this.” ¶So with pressure from his friends, Manchin must resolve his self-inflicted conundrum; if Congress won’t come together, is inaction an option? ¶S.4263, the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act and proposed amendments, with 47 cosponsors, is designed to address the SCOTUS concerns (2013 Shelby County v Holder decision) of preclearance based on old data (i.e. decades-old misdeeds, rather than current discriminatory practices) and discrimination against certain states (i.e. unequal burdens on certain states) by requiring preclearance for all 50 states.
Still no paragraph breaks. Tried double returns, but still did not work. Inserted paragraph symbols.
When it is done, you will be the first to know . . .
Murkowski. When you get to 9 other Reps I’ll get interested. And nowhere do I see a single Rep Senator or Sinema and Manchin stating they will vote to stop the filibuster on voting rights legislation. Your quote of their statement is pure rhetorical bs. The part about “Congress must come together — just as we have done time and again” is almost unbelievable. In what century do they think they are?
Fred, That article is simply horrible in so many ways. Not the least of which is “guarding against rising inflation.”
Private Inequity: How a Powerful Industry Conquered the Tax System
… Private equity has conquered the American tax system.
anyone else notice that new cases of Covid have been falling much faster than the US Covid death rate? i’ve been figuring it was just a matter of time that lower cases would lead to lower deaths, so i was surprised this week to find that US deaths attributed to Covid-19 this week (ending June 12) were down just 0.7% from the prior week…since new cases continue to fall (albeit slower), deaths as a percentage of new cases has been rising (ie, it was 2.81% for the week ending yesterday vs 1.34% for the last week of April).…i don’t know why and haven’t seen an explanation as to why that is so…
@Rjs, That question has come up at AB before. The entirely reasonable answer is that deaths lag new cases by a few weeks; i.e., this week’s deaths were new cases 3 to 6 weeks ago.
this thread had previous problems – line 0
no problem with newlines today
back to single
Thank you. I am assuming the single and dbl spacing is working properly now.
Yes. I got what I expected.
I am going to delete the comments in a bit. Let me see if we can allow some editing also. Maybe a time limit like NC has.
You are saying I could edit my own tiepose?
I don’t see an interface for that.