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Open thread Jan. 18, 2019

Dan Crawford | January 18, 2019 9:21 am

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  • EMichael says:
    January 18, 2019 at 10:31 am

    Depressing to me that there are so many progressives that ignore the real reason for the shutdown. It is not about immigration policy or border security, it is a straight appeal to his base, the ones that chanted, still chant and will chant, “Build That Wall”.

    GOP refusal to stop this shutdown is simply because they know that trump’s base is their base. They have ridden that tiger for a half a century now, and they can’t get off.

    Strange how these kinds of things always seem to concern people of color, and yet people are afraid to state the obvious, cause you know, it is rude to call people racists, and just because people of color are being attacked, that’s no reason to be rude.

    “Back when Hurricane Maria devastated Puerto Rico in 2017, there was a lot of talk about how President Trump was taking it a lot less seriously than two other hurricanes, Harvey and Irma, which hit areas that were, um, a little whiter than Puerto Rico. But according to the Washington Post, it was actually a whole lot worse than that:

    ‘Trump told then-White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and then-Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney that he did not want a single dollar going to Puerto Rico, because he thought the island was misusing the money and taking advantage of the government, according to a person with direct knowledge of the discussions who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive internal deliberations. Instead, he wanted more of the money to go to Texas and Florida, the person said. “POTUS was not consolable about this,” the person said.’

    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/01/trump-not-one-dollar-for-puerto-rico/

    Key words? “a little whiter”.

    “Meanwhile, The New York Times reports that the child-separation policy at the southern border was even worse of a humanitarian disaster than we thought.

    ‘But that number does not represent the full scope of family separations. Thousands of children may have been separated during an influx that began in 2017, before the accounting required by the court, the report said. Thus, the total number of children separated from a parent or guardian by immigration authorities is “unknown,” because of the lack of a coordinated formal tracking system between the Office of Refugee Resettlement, the arm of Health and Human Services that takes in the children, and the Department of Homeland Security, which separated them from their parents.

    After a review of internal government tallies, The New York Times found that more than 700 migrant children had been separated from their families in the months before the government officially announced the zero-tolerance policy. On June 26, 2018, a federal judge in San Diego directed the federal government to halt the separations at the border and to reunite children with their parents. President Trump rescinded the policy that same month. However, the federal inspectors found that separations have continued to occur: As of November, the report found, Health and Human Services had received at least 118 children who had been separated from their families since the court order.

    There is a court order. The president* has killed the policy. And it’s still going on.”

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25937384/president-trump-puerto-rico-funding-family-separations/

    Wonder how many white kids have been separated from their families?

    • run75441 says:
      January 18, 2019 at 3:59 pm

      EM:

      It is a wall to keep the brown people out.

  • EMichael says:
    January 18, 2019 at 11:41 am

    Alright, Nancy. Let’s get your people together, ignore the Senate, and start the process of removing this, this, this….I need to find a couple more adjectives and nouns. The old ones are not extensive enough.

    “Congress Can’t Wait for Mueller. It’s Time to Start the Impeachment Process.

    Donald Trump is as crooked as Richard Nixon ever was.

    By now, practically everybody is aware of the BuzzFeed News bombshell that pretty much fits the president* for some leg-irons.

    ‘Now the two sources have told BuzzFeed News that Cohen also told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie — by claiming that negotiations ended months earlier than they actually did — in order to obscure Trump’s involvement. The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office.’

    If this reporting is accurate, then either this is the ballgame, or Richard Nixon was the victim of the worst miscarriage of justice in the history of western jurisprudence. There seems to be no question that Cohen was under oath when he told the lies the president* allegedly told him to tell. He lied to Congress because the president* told him to do so. Lying under oath is precisely why John Ehrlichman, H.R. Haldeman, Jeb Magruder, and Dwight Chapin all went to prison. The lying under oath, of course, was part and parcel of a conspiracy to obstruct justice, which was the reason why even more of Nixon people went up the river. If the BuzzFeed reporting is correct, this president* is as crooked as Nixon ever was.”

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25947444/trump-direct-michael-cohen-lie-congress-richard-nixon/

  • ilsm says:
    January 18, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    Emike,

    Take a couple of deep breathes!

    The wall is no worse than buying 35 F-35’s about the same price, the same useless and the same immoral according to which way your mind is bent.

    Chuck and Nancy are as bad as Trump!

    If I were Trump I would have stranded the speaker in Kabul! But they were a larger group than Nancy.

  • ilsm says:
    January 19, 2019 at 6:50 am

    A Primer on the Geopolitics of Oil
     
    https://warontherocks.com/2019/01/a-primer-on-the-geopolitics-of-oil/

    Interesting read, add a grain of salt.

  • EMichael says:
    January 19, 2019 at 8:09 am

    Ilsm,

    Your constant replies to this situation never address this situation.

    Go waste somebody else’s time.

    Or, make your comments the start of a thread instead of linking them to a thread where they are totally irrelevant.

  • ilsm says:
    January 19, 2019 at 12:08 pm

    Emike, sigh….

  • EMichael says:
    January 20, 2019 at 8:09 am

    Starting in the 80’s a lot of my family had Thanksgiving at the Jersey Shore. Part of the tradition was to bring half a dozen or so kids from the Coast Guard boot camp to dinner. While they liked the food, I think most of them were happier about access to the telephone than dinner(and a beer or two).

    CAPE MAY, N.J. (WPVI) —
    Community members in Cape May are rallying around Coast Guard members who missed their first paycheck Tuesday due to the ongoing government shutdown.

    Jessica Manfre is the wife of a 17-year member of the Coast Guard. She is also the point person for a community-wide food bank effort some have dubbed ‘Operation Shutdown.’

    Some women from a First United Methodist of Cape May Courthouse dropped off $1,000 worth of ACME gift cards.

    The Cape May facility is a major training base. About 1,000 people continue to serve without pay, and hundreds have used the food bank.

    Business from beachfront hotels to brewpubs to auto garages have been collecting food and offering discounts to those affectionately known as ‘Coasties.’

    “They have helped us with our commercial fishing families,” said Jim O’Brien of O’Brien Auto Repair. “They get out at bed at night for our families when they need it, so we are here to help them when they need it.”

    The Morey Organization and Crest Savings Bank have teamed up to extend up to $1,500 credit to those in the Coast Guard during the shutdown.

    “We are willing to do up to 75 percent of their bi-weekly pay with zero percent interest, and it will not be due until 30 days after their pay resumes,” said Nancy Cleaver with Crest Savings Bank.”

    https://6abc.com/politics/cape-may-community-pitches-in-to-help-coast-guard-members-/5091091/

    Have a nice day, Susan Sarandon

    • run75441 says:
      January 20, 2019 at 11:15 am

      People triumphing over a dictator

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