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Open thread October 30, 2018

Dan Crawford | October 30, 2018 5:00 am

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  • Lord says:
    October 30, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Isn’t Trump right about fake news brought to us by our domestic terrorist organization, Fox News and their ilk?

  • EMichael says:
    October 30, 2018 at 11:01 am

    I may be the most irreligious person I know, but the tone deafness of this is beyond appalling. It’s to the point where the GOP is manufacturing Jews.

    “In the wake of the shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue over the weekend that left 11 people dead, Vice President Mike Pence appeared with a rabbi at a campaign rally in Michigan — but the rabbi was a “Messianic rabbi” who’s part of the Jews for Jesus movement.

    Pence sparked outrage when he shared the stage with Loren Jacobs at a rally outside of Detroit. Messianic Judaism accepts Jesus as the messiah and embraces the New Testament. As the Washington Post notes, the major Jewish denominations and Israel view followers of Messianic Judaism as Christian.

    Many onlookers slammed Jacobs’s appearance alongside Pence as insensitive and tone-deaf in the wake of the shooting on Saturday in Pittsburgh that killed 11 people and wounded multiple others, including four police officers.

    Jacobs opened his prayer by invoking “God of Abraham, God of Isaac, God of Jacob, God and father of my lord and savior Yeshua, Jesus the Messiah, and my God and father, too.” (As NBC News notes, many Messianic Jews refer to Jesus as “Yeshua.”)

    He went on to lament divisions in the US, saying, “Our nation is so divided right now,” and invoked the “hate-inspired shooting” in Pittsburgh. “I pray that you would comfort all of those who are mourning because of those who were wounded and killed,” he said. “Lord, please work so that instead of division in our nation, there is unity and peace.”

    Jacobs did not name the 11 victims of the Pittsburgh shooting in his prayer, but he did in his prayer for Republican politicians, including Pence, the presidential cabinet, and four Republican candidates for office. “I pray for them and for the Republican Party and its candidates so that they would honor you and your ways, that you might grant them victory in this election,” Jacobs said.”

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/30/18042224/mike-pence-christian-rabbi-messianic-jews

    They are the mole people.

  • EMichael says:
    October 30, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    Worst person(s) in the world. They are truly evil.

    Nikki Haley
    ‏Verified account @nikkihaley

    I have struggled w/ what happened in Pitts bc it’s so similar to what happened in Chas. The country was very racially divided @ the time. We didn’t once blame Pres. Obama. We focused solely on the lives lost & their families. Have some respect for these families & stop the blame.

    “Maybe no one linked President Obama to the Charleston attack, in which a white supremacist walked into a black church and shot nine black congregants to death, because Obama did not advocate white supremacy or political violence…….

    Does that seem harsh? To link the Charleston shooter’s decision to commit mass murder to an atmosphere raised to a fever pitch by extreme rhetoric from politicians and their media allies? Here, via The Charleston Post and Courier, is someone who seemed to agree:

    Haley, who endorsed then-candidate Marco Rubio ahead of South Carolina’s primary, said she has vocally criticized Trump because “I know what that rhetoric can do. I saw it happen.”

    She said she doesn’t think people who support Trump are racist or haters. “That’s a different kind of anger. They’re upset with Washington, D.C. They’re upset nothing’s got done,” she said. “The way he communicates that, I wish were different.” Trump has a responsibility for the country’s well-being to use a civil, respectful tone, she told reporters two weeks ahead of the anniversary of the Emanuel shooting.”

    and even a victim of shooting by a deranged pos joins the conversation:

    “No, Haley is no different from the rest. You can tell because this is the exact same playbook they ran just last week. The Pittsburgh massacre was only the last major incident in a week of American terror. It followed on the double-murder of two African-Americans at a supermarket in Kentucky—a location the white shooter, who reportedly told a white bystander that “whites don’t kill whites,” settled on only after failing to gain entry to a black church. And it also followed on the rolling attempts at assassination-by-bomb of prominent Democrats and CNN contributors that authorities now say were perpetrated by Cesar Sayoc, a Florida man no one is disputing is a Trump supporter.

    No, there’s no denying a guy with a van like this had particular political leanings. So the president’s allies turned to a familiar line of defense: the false equivalence. We can’t blame Trump for one supporter’s violent rampage, they said. We didn’t blame Bernie when his supporter shot Republican congressmen at a softball practice. In fact, Fox News hosted Steve Scalise—who was wounded in the shooting—Tuesday to continue pushing the line:

    Except Bernie Sanders never advocated political violence against his opponents from the podium. He never cast his opponents as enemies of the state. No one has produced any example that even comes close to it. This is simply a fabrication via different means.”

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a24430904/nikki-haley-trump-pittsburgh-shooting-charleston/

    Keep thinking only a small part of the GOP and its voters are deplorables. They all are.

  • run75441 says:
    October 30, 2018 at 1:38 pm

    Trump intends to issue an executive order to strip children born of immigrants in the US of citizenship in direct defiance of the 14th amendment.

    “’It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties,’ James Madison wrote in 1785. President Donald Trump confirmed Tuesday that he plans to move from experimentation on liberty into widespread application of the tyrant’s playbook.

    In an interview with Axios on HBO, Trump confirmed what had been suspected since last summer: He is planning an executive order that would try to change the meaning of the Constitution as it has been applied for the past 150 years—and declare open season on millions of native-born Americans.” The Citizenship Clause Means What It Says

  • Bert Schlitz says:
    October 30, 2018 at 3:58 pm

    Sorry Run, Trumps EXO is irrelevant. There is no open season on anybody. Just useless pandering by the Ashkenazi with a order that means little.

    His immigration policy is a scam and illegal immigration is surging, especially from Asia, where Trump loves their cheap service sector work. Since the border was essentially closed in 1999, trafficking has surged and accounts for 80% of all immigrants. Contards love to tell stories, especially the “white nationalist” versions. But who controls “white nationalism”? Follow the jewish money. It starts with them. They buy up websites to control people and push propa. They want “whitey” to stay a slave to the bourgeois and their debt schemes. Keep on pumping that fossil fuel production, destroying their endocrine system and eating that sugary poison called “food”. It creates a fat, purposeless people with no direction. Then you wonder why people do drugs?

    At some point, progtards are going to figure out reality ain’t so kind to your ‘human rights” argument. Give it up. Deportations have crashed under Trump and a modest rise in arrests, who then mysteriously “disappear” from the system.

  • 2slugbaits says:
    October 30, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    So does this mean Barron Trump would not be a citizen under Trump’s proposed Executive Order? Barron Trump was born a few months before Melania became a US citizen.

  • Bert Schlitz says:
    October 30, 2018 at 11:58 pm

    Steve King is also lying about his paternal ‘heritage”. It is not German. The zionists have been building since the late 20th century a “white nationalist movement” which is totally bogus. No wonder why the “old establishment” of “white nationalism” is so mad. Progressives may have weird friends in high places.

  • Arne says:
    October 31, 2018 at 1:19 am

    I suspect it would go to the Supreme Court as there is no case perfectly on point. Win or lose Trump keeps himself in the news.

    • run75441 says:
      October 31, 2018 at 9:38 am

      Arne:

      What Trump is doing is distracting everyone so they can do other things. Yea, it is about him; but, we are constantly being pulled away from what we need to do which is turning out Republicans. What prompted this was an interview;

      “It was Jonathan Swan of Axios who brought up the issue of birthright citizenship and then asked the president, ‘Have you thought about that?” Of course he has, it was a topic of discussion during the 2016 Republican primary. Swan then asked whether Trump has talked to counsel about that and where it is in the process. The president responded by saying that it is in process and that it will happen. Trump then gives Swan an ‘attaboy’ for bringing the topic up.”

      Kind of a Love-Hate relationship going on there. Trumps loves the attention he gets from the news and pretends to hate them in public and they fawn all over him. We need some real media.

      Mass media stirring the pot and Axios at that! Access media at its finest. There was no reason in the world to prompt Trump or give him more publicity.

      • Dan Crawford says:
        October 31, 2018 at 2:26 pm

        I concur.

  • Arne says:
    October 31, 2018 at 1:23 am

    If Trump announced an order effective 2020, who would have status to bring it to court?

  • EMichael says:
    October 31, 2018 at 8:53 am

    I think BS should be banned from this site.

    His comments are nothing more than the same hate speech used by the Pittsburgh shooter, and deserve no forum in here.

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