At times John Cochrane babbles on incoherently on what should be a straight forward issue. This post is one example:
Once you net out interest costs, it is interesting how sober US fiscal policy actually has been over the years. In economic good times, we run primary surpluses. The impression that the US is always running deficits is primarily because of interest costs. Even the notorious “Reagan deficits” were primarily payments, occasioned by the huge spike in interest rates, on outstanding debt. On a tax minus expenditure basis, not much unusual was going on especially considering it was the bottom of the (then) worst recession since WWII. Only in the extreme of 1976, 1982, and 2002, in with steep recessions and in the later case war did we touch any primary deficits, and then pretty swiftly returned to surpluses.
I too advocate looking at the primary surplus. Cochrane is a finance professor so let’s make this simple. Let g = the ratio of Federal expenditures excluding interest payments to GDP and t = the ratio of Federal taxes to GDP. If we assume a steady state model, the present value of future primary surplus is simply V = (t- g)/(r – n), where r = the real interest rate and n = the long-term growth rate. As long as V is at least as great as the debt/GDP ratio, we are not on the bankruptcy path that economists were talking about when Reagan initiated his 1981 fiscal fiasco. Tax rates were massively cut and defense spending spiked and had this fiscal stance continued forever, then the debt/GDP ratio would have exploded. Of course it didn’t as there were future tax increases and the peace dividend. Cochrane takes us through the Great Recession:
Until 2008. The last 10 years really have been an anomaly in US fiscal policy. One may say that the huge recession demanded huge fiscal stimulus, or one may think $10 trillion in debt was wasted. In either case, what we just went through was huge. And in the last data point, 2017, we are sliding again into territory only seen in severe recessions. That too is unusual.
The Great Recession did demand huge fiscal stimulus – we got a tempered version of what was really needed. The last decade has taken the debt/GDP ratio to 100% but we have returned to near full employment so I do not get his 2 last sentences quoted. In 2017, g was 19.5% and t was 18.5% so maybe we should be more concerned especially since we have had another tax cut for the rich as well as a call for a larger defense budget. But then comes his update!
Cochrane flipped from talking about sober fiscal policy to his dire straights update after reading that Jeff Miron paper he linked to. I’m reading it and it is classic Cato garbage. By tomorrow I hope to have another post reviewing Miron. I just heard Paul Ryan tell us that we need to slash future deficits with “entitlement reform”. OK – then WTF was that tax cut about. The level of Republican dishonesty is so deep it makes conservative economists write very stupid things.
We have regularly scheduled recessions. And it works, is the claim here.
OK, as per plan, we have decided to suddenly increase the interest expense by double, or we have to scramble and find 2% of the economy to divert to interest payment, thi year.
Yes, that is a regular scheduled recession, and we shall see if we can pull it off one more time.
“We have regularly scheduled recessions. And it works, is the claim here.”
My God! This is not my claim. In fact your entire comment appears to be a troll comment ala a Russian bot.
My review of Jeffrey Miron’s call to slash entitlements is up: