Now a study by Yann Algan, Sergei Guriev, Elias Papaionnou, and Eugenia Passari at Pro Market (and linked to today by Mark Thoma at Economistsview) finds that if one looks closely at local economic conditions in parts of European nations over recent years, specifically changes in unemployment rates, one finds that there seems to be a relationship between such increases and increased support for “populist” parties, a “specter hanging over Europe.” I find the study reasonably persuasive. So this would mean that a possible explanation for the Poland problem is that unhappiness in suffering and poorer regions overwhelms broader good economic performance in nations, leading in some cases to actual takeovers by these parties.
I note that for at least some nations where I know the geographic details better, this fits with the odd situation where those regions voting most vigorously for strongly anti-immigrant parties are also th regions with fewest immigrants. This reminds me of the old wisecrack about Poland from 1968 when there was a major outbreak of anti-Semitism that Poland was showing how to have anti-Semitism while having few Jews.
We should note that while this local outcome finding reasserts the standard link between economic conditions and political outcomes, the Poland problem does not completely go away. The hard fact is that while indeed we see worsened economic conditions leading to voting for political change, we see these cases where in fact conditions in the nations as a whole are/were pretty good. But those good conditions in other parts of these nations fail to deliver satisfaction sufficient to save the incumbent parties. We have seen such local behavior previously without this sort of outcome happening at the national level.
I shall add two further notes on the case of the US, some of which I already made in my earlier post on the US having a Poland problem. One is that in fact looking at the popular vote, the better national conditions did offset the locally bad ones in the Rust Belt in that in fact Clinton won the popular vote fairly solidly over Trump. But the shifts in those Rust Belt states crucially shifted electoral votes so that Trump won the electoral vote and became president.
There is also a more complicating aspect to this. Without doubt parts of the states that shifted between 2012 and 2016 in the Rust Belt, IA, WI, MI, OH, and PA, fit the ProMarket story. : especially in PA and OH. We see locations such as Scranton-Wilkes Barre and Erie in PA having bad economic conditions and switching sharply from Dem to GOP between 2012 and 2016. In OH Youngstown also fits this as well as some manufacturing urban areas in MI. But important lrgions in these states did not fit the story. In particular reasonably well-off rural areas in parts of OH, MI, WI, and IA, with these areas the key for the switch in state outcomes in the latter two, especially southwestern Wisconsin and southern Iowa, the state with the largest percentage change in vote. These changes were not driven by bad economic conditions. Some of these, especially in SW WI, switched just prior to the election, with the infamous Comey email story likely playing a major role.
Of course today we have Trump facing a Poland problem: US economy clearly growing solidly, with well over 50% of voters saying so. But Trump’s support is a good 20% lower. I have read that Trump and some of his associates quoting James Carville on “It’s the economy, stupid,” hoping that a big advertising campaign pushing the supposedly stimulative effect of the GOP tax cut. It may well be that they are not going to succeed, and Trump and GOP will fall victim to the US version of the Poland program as the GOP takes a large hit this fall in a Dem wave, despite the economy doing well.
Barkley Rosser
I’m not so optimistic. You seem to be assuming that “the economy stupid” determines elections, even after you have shown why it does not.
By the time of the next election the Trumpistas hold on the country will be strong enough they can laugh at those voters they don’t actually fool with a Big Lie.
Maybe, Coberly, but so far many do not seem to give him credit for the current state of the economy. The Big Money people at Davos seem to like his tax cut, but indeed they will make out big from it. Apparently they will try to convince people that they too are making big out of it, but most will make only small gains, which will show up shortly in their possibly overdone witholdings. But evidence from the past is that if those are small they soon forget they got them. Obama got little political credit for the tax cut he provided in 2009, with Dems losing big time in 2010. In a sense he already had a Poland problem
“unhappiness in suffering and poorer regions overwhelms broader good economic performance in nations, leading in some cases to actual takeovers by these parties”
Sounds like another country I know (USA),
PS. Europe would be a happier, safer place if it had taken care of business with killer Assad in the first place — now that place is inevitably moving its problems to Europe.
Interview with a German journalist: “Like many other women in Germany, I no longer feel safe.”
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/01/interview-with-a-german-journalist-like-many-other-women-in-germany-i-no-longer-feel-safe/
Barkley
first, thanks for pointing all this out.
i especially think we needed to have pointed out to us that “the economy is doing well” does not mean that “everybody” is doing well.
and those people, and the people who hear about them, and those who think they are not doing “well enough,” and those who “forget they got them” can easily be persuaded that the fault is “the democrats” or “liberals” or jews or immigrants or “the poor” themselves.
just as “Obama got little credit for the tax cuts he provided” Trump will get little “credit” for the “wealth he creates” or the wealth he doesn’t create or actually destroys.
“the economy stupid” only works for some of the people some of the time. elections… to the extent they are even honest… turn on only a few votes. sometimes we get lucky. most of the times the bad guys just adjust their lies and people go on believing what they have always believed.