” The number rises with the economy to $307B in 2026. The tax increase that is required to
stabilize SS is $2.5 Trillion over the next decade. This is mega bucks. The
Department of Education entire budget is $67 Billion. Coberly wants to raise taxes
by more than triple that amount! The entire military budget for the United states is
$587B. The tax increase that is required for SS is a 1/3 of the entire military
budget. Don’t let Coberly fool you into thinking that this is a drop in the bucket.”
Bruce Krasting, angrybearblog.com/2017/07/fix-the-debt-wants-to-save-social-security-but-why.html#comments
” In 2015 the increment in the pretax income going to the top 1 percent at a share of 20.3 percent compared to the previous normal of 10 percent was $1.3 trillion — every year –. That’s more than total annual Social Security payments, twice as large as the defense budget.”
Charles R. Morris A RABBLE OF DEAD MONEY: The Great Crash and the global Depression 1929 – 1939
“The National Center for Public Policy Research obtained Gore’s electricity usage through FOIA requests and by talking with the Nashville Electric Service (NES), which services Gore’s home. It reports the former vice president averaged a whopping 19,241 kilowatt hours (kWh) every month, compared to 901 kWh for the average home.”
“That 19,241 kWh average monthly electricity usage is 21.3 times more energy than a typical American household consumes in a month,” the National Center for Public Policy Research reports.”
It gets worse.
Last September alone, Gore devoured 30,993 kWh of electricity. That’s enough to power 34 average American homes for a month. Over the last 12 months, Gore used more electricity just heating his outdoor swimming pool than six typical homes use in a year.
If global warming was really the catastrophic event Gore makes it out to be, I doubt his home would consume so much power. And I doubt he’d jet set across the globe to give lectures in private planes.
As I understand it, Gore’s “home” is also an office with employees. IOW, comparing to an average American home is specious.
Global warming can still be exactly as catastrophic as Gore makes it out to be, regardless of Gore’s behavior. The evidence for global warming is vast and based on scientific data, not Al Gore’s electricity consumption or travel plans.
Thing is I enjoy a hot bath and cooked food more than I enjoy driving a high powered car back and forth to work every day at 12 mph.
It has been a hundred degrees here for a few days. Somehow we manage without air conditioning. And in winter we manage without too much heat and most of that is carbon-neutral.
Point here is you can live in reasonable comfort without poisoning the planet. It is dug-in stupidity that is causing the problem.
As if you need to look like a famine victim to care about world hunger.
This particular wingnut talking point stems from confusing something that underlies much of American Liberalism – the Pragmatic slogan Greatest Good for Greatest Number with its Socialist counterpart : From Each According to his Ability, to Each According to His Need. Neither of which requires the kind of total abnegation and equality of outcome assumed by those who “explain” that Al Gore uses more electricity than three African villages or that American welfare recipients have indoor plumbing, something Louis XIV the Sun King could only dream of, and so are not really poor.
This is ridiculous, a burden put on liberals alone by people who argue that unlimited concentration of wealth in the face of global poverty is actually a virtue.
It doesn’t make liberals or Al Gore hypocrites because they understand that the Arc of Justice has a timeline, that people of good will can pursue justice without themselves having to subsist on dry lentils in a yurt in the meantime.
I don’t think there is any argument that could convince Sammy, but I had to laugh last night when I went to a Congressman’s “town meeting”:
One of the audience was calling for a carbon tax AND a rebate so that poor people didn’t have to pay it… even indirectly.
I understand why Gore needs to use some electricity to manage his campaign to tell the people about global warming. And I really have no objection to his living large… as large as he can afford, with the money he has earned.
Saving the earth from excess CO2 is not going to depend upon individual virtue, but a sufficient number of people willing to agree, democratically, on system wide measures to reduce the generation of greenhouse gasses.
I think a carbon tax may be the best first step. But I hate to see people who agree with me say, “but don’t make me pay for it.”
Although how much power Al Gore uses is totally irrelevant to the evidence that anthropogenic global warming is occurring and will have catastrophic consequences, any discussion of global warming relative to energy use is only relevant when the energy generates CO2. How much of Gore’s electricity is from renewables: solar, wind, geothermal or hydro? Looks like a lot of it is:
Two new members to the NRLB are being proposed.
COMPARATIVE STATISTICS
” The number rises with the economy to $307B in 2026. The tax increase that is required to
stabilize SS is $2.5 Trillion over the next decade. This is mega bucks. The
Department of Education entire budget is $67 Billion. Coberly wants to raise taxes
by more than triple that amount! The entire military budget for the United states is
$587B. The tax increase that is required for SS is a 1/3 of the entire military
budget. Don’t let Coberly fool you into thinking that this is a drop in the bucket.”
Bruce Krasting, angrybearblog.com/2017/07/fix-the-debt-wants-to-save-social-security-but-why.html#comments
” In 2015 the increment in the pretax income going to the top 1 percent at a share of 20.3 percent compared to the previous normal of 10 percent was $1.3 trillion — every year –. That’s more than total annual Social Security payments, twice as large as the defense budget.”
Charles R. Morris A RABBLE OF DEAD MONEY: The Great Crash and the global Depression 1929 – 1939
“The National Center for Public Policy Research obtained Gore’s electricity usage through FOIA requests and by talking with the Nashville Electric Service (NES), which services Gore’s home. It reports the former vice president averaged a whopping 19,241 kilowatt hours (kWh) every month, compared to 901 kWh for the average home.”
“That 19,241 kWh average monthly electricity usage is 21.3 times more energy than a typical American household consumes in a month,” the National Center for Public Policy Research reports.”
http://freebeacon.com/politics/al-gores-home-uses-21-times-more-energy-than-average-american-family-reports-think-tank/
It gets worse.
Last September alone, Gore devoured 30,993 kWh of electricity. That’s enough to power 34 average American homes for a month. Over the last 12 months, Gore used more electricity just heating his outdoor swimming pool than six typical homes use in a year.
If global warming was really the catastrophic event Gore makes it out to be, I doubt his home would consume so much power. And I doubt he’d jet set across the globe to give lectures in private planes.
http://thepoliticalinsider.com/al-gores-electricity/
As I understand it, Gore’s “home” is also an office with employees. IOW, comparing to an average American home is specious.
Global warming can still be exactly as catastrophic as Gore makes it out to be, regardless of Gore’s behavior. The evidence for global warming is vast and based on scientific data, not Al Gore’s electricity consumption or travel plans.
Please stop trolling, Sammy.
Sammy
i use about 300kwh per month. Does that count?
Thing is I enjoy a hot bath and cooked food more than I enjoy driving a high powered car back and forth to work every day at 12 mph.
It has been a hundred degrees here for a few days. Somehow we manage without air conditioning. And in winter we manage without too much heat and most of that is carbon-neutral.
Point here is you can live in reasonable comfort without poisoning the planet. It is dug-in stupidity that is causing the problem.
Shorter Sammy “Al Gore is fat”
As if you need to look like a famine victim to care about world hunger.
This particular wingnut talking point stems from confusing something that underlies much of American Liberalism – the Pragmatic slogan Greatest Good for Greatest Number with its Socialist counterpart : From Each According to his Ability, to Each According to His Need. Neither of which requires the kind of total abnegation and equality of outcome assumed by those who “explain” that Al Gore uses more electricity than three African villages or that American welfare recipients have indoor plumbing, something Louis XIV the Sun King could only dream of, and so are not really poor.
This is ridiculous, a burden put on liberals alone by people who argue that unlimited concentration of wealth in the face of global poverty is actually a virtue.
It doesn’t make liberals or Al Gore hypocrites because they understand that the Arc of Justice has a timeline, that people of good will can pursue justice without themselves having to subsist on dry lentils in a yurt in the meantime.
Bruce
it’s good to see you up and about.
I don’t think there is any argument that could convince Sammy, but I had to laugh last night when I went to a Congressman’s “town meeting”:
One of the audience was calling for a carbon tax AND a rebate so that poor people didn’t have to pay it… even indirectly.
I understand why Gore needs to use some electricity to manage his campaign to tell the people about global warming. And I really have no objection to his living large… as large as he can afford, with the money he has earned.
Saving the earth from excess CO2 is not going to depend upon individual virtue, but a sufficient number of people willing to agree, democratically, on system wide measures to reduce the generation of greenhouse gasses.
I think a carbon tax may be the best first step. But I hate to see people who agree with me say, “but don’t make me pay for it.”
Although how much power Al Gore uses is totally irrelevant to the evidence that anthropogenic global warming is occurring and will have catastrophic consequences, any discussion of global warming relative to energy use is only relevant when the energy generates CO2. How much of Gore’s electricity is from renewables: solar, wind, geothermal or hydro? Looks like a lot of it is:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp