There are low skilled jobs galore that can pay just as much as factory jobs. Anybody who reads or writes at any of these progressive blogs ever hear of the words “collective bargaining”?
With collective bargaining workers are paid by the max the consumer is willing to fork up — not by the minimum for which the desperate worker is willing to show up.
Lack of collective bargaining is especially harmful to American raised workers of all colors in mixed American raised/foreign raised work forces like Chicago’s. The labor market doesn’t clear evenly. Look at fast food in Chicago and it is all Mexican and (East) Indian labor. My old taxi job has been “outsourced” to the whole world.
Foreign raised workers are willing to show up for $400 a week — Am are not. We want $800. If there were nobody but Am around they would have to pay $800. Also if wage were set by collective bargaining they would have to pay $800.
In any case with collective bargaining you intuit you have squeezed the best the economy (a.k.a., the consumer) of your era can produce (a.k.a., pay).
Result of dropout of Am in Chicago: an unbelievable 100,000 out of my guesstimate 200,000 gang-age, minority males are in drug dealing street gangs. (Last night the TV said, if I remember correctly, 40 of the 52 shot over weekend had 672 arrests among them.) http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chicago-police-sergeant-tribal-warfare-on-the-streets/
Especially with a mixed rich country/poor country work force you desperately need to restore collective bargaining — to make the American labor market workable (pun intended) again.
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Intimidating union organizing is illegal everywhere — and nowhere/nowhere practicably. If caught firing an organizer you must rehire her. Doesn’t matter if you fully compensate her income loss and never fire her again — you got away with thereal bank robbery money anyway; you barred the certification election anyway.
Only remedy that makes economic sense: a finding of union busting should lead to a mandatory certification election. I believe this sanction has to take place at the federal level (NLRB preemption). This could be possible if Hillary pulls enough reps and senators with her. [Be a great issue for Hillary with the blue collar voter.]
At the state level union busting now needs to be taken as as seriously and as harmful an unfair market practice as, say, taking a movie in the movies — which will get you a couple of years federal hospitality.
[snip]
As long as nobody else talks about re-unionization (as the beginning and the end of re-constituting the American dream) — nobody thinks it is possible to talk about …
… or something.
Easy as pie to make union busting a felony in our most progressive states f(WA, OR, CA, NV, IL, NY, MD) — and then get out of the way as the first 2000 people in the many telephone directories re-define our future.
[snip]
After I described the American labor spinning wheels market to my late brother John, he came back with: “Martin Luther King got his people on the up escalator just in time for it to start going down for everybody.
Drew I fully agree that we should make union busting a felony. The problem is that HRC is not the person to do it . She does not believe in a real worker capitalistic opportunity economy. She believes in bigger government more control-regulation higher tax more socialized government that does not really encourage people to work…Trump is the guy who will promote greater worker rights and reforms to stronger unions collective bargaining rights and labor laws. Remember to make America prosperous again we must make it in America again. To do this you must have strong union rights and benefits to rebuilding the middle class of America again. HRC’s appeal-voters goes to those in our society who don’t really want to work but want everything free from the too big government…Make no mistake about what you are saying and wish for… For more insight on this too big and unaccountable government go see todays PauCraigRoberts.org and read about how much tax payer money is unaccounted for just at the pentagon alone. You will be shocked to see the Abama and HRC did Nothing about this huge fraud perpetrated on the American people…
“Trump is the guy who will promote greater worker rights and reforms to stronger unions collective bargaining rights and labor laws”
Bill Trump has a multi-decade history of using non-union, undocumented labor on his NYC construction sites and his Las Vegas branded casinos are the major hold outs against the hotel unions otherwise who have had significant success in Nevada.
Vote for Jill Stein if it feels good. But anyone but a neo-fascist who begins a sentence “Trump is the guy who will promote–” is deluded. Trump is no friend of unions. Except historically of cement worker unions controlled by Fat Tony Salerno, Don of the Gambino Family.
It is okay to hate on Hillary. My best loved relative does and I don’t have too many quarrels on the specifics he objects to. But Trump is not the answer. To ANYTHING. This guy is not even a cut rate Mussolini, he doesn’t rate that high. He is a half price Berlusconi who only cares about himself. And perhaps his daughter and his hair piece.
Anyone but a neo-liberal who begins a sentence “Clinton is the gal who will promote–” is deluded. Clinton is no progressive and neo liberal is not liberal, but she will pay planned parenthood.
What about pushing neoliberal is not deluded?
I will vote Trump because the system is better off with him than the permanent war crowd.
I agree with Stein but rather toss my vote on Trump and GOP down ticket.
MY COMMENT CROSS POSTED FROM:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/08/milwaukee-riots-round-up-of-systemic-causes.html#comment-2654637
There are low skilled jobs galore that can pay just as much as factory jobs. Anybody who reads or writes at any of these progressive blogs ever hear of the words “collective bargaining”?
With collective bargaining workers are paid by the max the consumer is willing to fork up — not by the minimum for which the desperate worker is willing to show up.
Lack of collective bargaining is especially harmful to American raised workers of all colors in mixed American raised/foreign raised work forces like Chicago’s. The labor market doesn’t clear evenly. Look at fast food in Chicago and it is all Mexican and (East) Indian labor. My old taxi job has been “outsourced” to the whole world.
Foreign raised workers are willing to show up for $400 a week — Am are not. We want $800. If there were nobody but Am around they would have to pay $800. Also if wage were set by collective bargaining they would have to pay $800.
In any case with collective bargaining you intuit you have squeezed the best the economy (a.k.a., the consumer) of your era can produce (a.k.a., pay).
Result of dropout of Am in Chicago: an unbelievable 100,000 out of my guesstimate 200,000 gang-age, minority males are in drug dealing street gangs. (Last night the TV said, if I remember correctly, 40 of the 52 shot over weekend had 672 arrests among them.)
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chicago-police-sergeant-tribal-warfare-on-the-streets/
Especially with a mixed rich country/poor country work force you desperately need to restore collective bargaining — to make the American labor market workable (pun intended) again.
* * * * * * * * *
Intimidating union organizing is illegal everywhere — and nowhere/nowhere practicably. If caught firing an organizer you must rehire her. Doesn’t matter if you fully compensate her income loss and never fire her again — you got away with thereal bank robbery money anyway; you barred the certification election anyway.
Only remedy that makes economic sense: a finding of union busting should lead to a mandatory certification election. I believe this sanction has to take place at the federal level (NLRB preemption). This could be possible if Hillary pulls enough reps and senators with her. [Be a great issue for Hillary with the blue collar voter.]
At the state level union busting now needs to be taken as as seriously and as harmful an unfair market practice as, say, taking a movie in the movies — which will get you a couple of years federal hospitality.
[snip]
As long as nobody else talks about re-unionization (as the beginning and the end of re-constituting the American dream) — nobody thinks it is possible to talk about …
… or something.
Easy as pie to make union busting a felony in our most progressive states f(WA, OR, CA, NV, IL, NY, MD) — and then get out of the way as the first 2000 people in the many telephone directories re-define our future.
[snip]
After I described the American labor spinning wheels market to my late brother John, he came back with: “Martin Luther King got his people on the up escalator just in time for it to start going down for everybody.
Drew I fully agree that we should make union busting a felony. The problem is that HRC is not the person to do it . She does not believe in a real worker capitalistic opportunity economy. She believes in bigger government more control-regulation higher tax more socialized government that does not really encourage people to work…Trump is the guy who will promote greater worker rights and reforms to stronger unions collective bargaining rights and labor laws. Remember to make America prosperous again we must make it in America again. To do this you must have strong union rights and benefits to rebuilding the middle class of America again. HRC’s appeal-voters goes to those in our society who don’t really want to work but want everything free from the too big government…Make no mistake about what you are saying and wish for… For more insight on this too big and unaccountable government go see todays PauCraigRoberts.org and read about how much tax payer money is unaccounted for just at the pentagon alone. You will be shocked to see the Abama and HRC did Nothing about this huge fraud perpetrated on the American people…
“Trump is the guy who will promote greater worker rights and reforms to stronger unions collective bargaining rights and labor laws”
Bill Trump has a multi-decade history of using non-union, undocumented labor on his NYC construction sites and his Las Vegas branded casinos are the major hold outs against the hotel unions otherwise who have had significant success in Nevada.
Even after they lost the organizing fight they continued to resist:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trumps-vegas-hotel-settles-union-busting-allegations_us_5787c849e4b08608d3337b6d
Vote for Jill Stein if it feels good. But anyone but a neo-fascist who begins a sentence “Trump is the guy who will promote–” is deluded. Trump is no friend of unions. Except historically of cement worker unions controlled by Fat Tony Salerno, Don of the Gambino Family.
It is okay to hate on Hillary. My best loved relative does and I don’t have too many quarrels on the specifics he objects to. But Trump is not the answer. To ANYTHING. This guy is not even a cut rate Mussolini, he doesn’t rate that high. He is a half price Berlusconi who only cares about himself. And perhaps his daughter and his hair piece.
Bruce,
Anyone but a neo-liberal who begins a sentence “Clinton is the gal who will promote–” is deluded. Clinton is no progressive and neo liberal is not liberal, but she will pay planned parenthood.
What about pushing neoliberal is not deluded?
I will vote Trump because the system is better off with him than the permanent war crowd.
I agree with Stein but rather toss my vote on Trump and GOP down ticket.