Graphical Representation of Aggregate Demand in the Health Care Industry
Since my current governor (and your future President) is a brain-dead idiot who does not believe in the free market or taking responsibility for his actions, we are one of the many states whose PPACA sign-up website is run out of healthcare.gov. Here’s a screen shot of my attempt to create an account 25 minutes ago.
Here’s an image of it twenty-five minutes later:
If today’s Republican Congressmen understood Aggregate Demand, they would have happily claimed ownership, not being spoiled brats.
Let me guess, let me guess. I won’t look.
Rick Perry from Texas?
Wow, this has to be one of the most uniformed posts on this site. There are any number of reasons why this has little to do with demand, like bad servers, not enough servers, bad programming, etc.
And even if a perfectly well designed and run system is overrun by hits, maybe it is because the exchanges are part of a non-free market government mandated and subsidized market where individuals either a) have to participate, and or b) by participating are looking to receive lower than free market rates.
But yeah, sure, it is ‘aggregate demand’. That’s like saying, ‘look how many people interact with the IRS, its a great free market success because of the high aggregate demand!’
Thanks for taking down my post that kinda shows how dumb this post is. Guess you can’t really refute the facts so have to resort to more propaganda / control. Nice.
Sorry, there was a feed problem, ignore the above, when I came in the second time there was only 1 post and mine wasn’t included. Something is wrong with your commenting system.
No apologies are needed. Here at Angry Bear we readers are used to people putting their mouths in gear before engaging their brain function. Do you seriously think that there is no aggregate demand for affordable health care insurance? Do you truly believe that legislation that makes the health insurance industry more accountable to those who need health care is some how unreasonable? And keep in mind that the ACA legislation was the grand bargain that Obama and the Democrats had to fall back to in order to make the entire plan acceptable to the more conservative elements of their own party. And furthermore you and your ilk should recognize that the ACA is in all of its features what had been a Republican idea to begin with. The rest of us of a more liberal inclination were pushing for single payer, Medicare for all, health insurance/financing. Wake up and smell the coffee.
You seem to a) not understand logic, and b) are a complete partisan hack. Why ‘a’, because just because there is some ‘aggregate demand’ for ‘affordable health care insurance’, that does not obviate the point I made, namely that the failure of a system could be caused by a failure of the product, not the ‘overwhelming’ demand. Also, the claim that this example of ‘aggregate demand’ should be a Republican victory is laughable given the government coercion and government subsidies. That is not a victory for the free market having created ‘aggregate demand’, but a victory for statists of having created it. Of course people want free stuff, and if other people pay for their free stuff, there will be a lot of demand for it. That is not a free market.
Now why ‘b’, because who cares if the ACA was passed as a compromise between the really really left wing part of the Democratic party and the really left wing part. Oh that’s right because a ‘compromise’ between those two groups to enact a piece of legislature that nobody read on pure party lines is an example of bi-partisanship?
Wake up and smell the coffee, the ACA has done NOTHING it has promised to do. Lower health insurance rates, no. Keep your health plan, no, keep your doctor, no, etc, etc. etc.
Further even if you add 25M people to insurance roles, how many new doctors did you add, um none. Have fun with the new normal of healthcare with more demand and no more supply….yeah that’ll work.
If I were a governor, of either party, I would have let the feds start and operate the exchange for three years, and then when the bugs were worked out take it over.
But I’m just being practical.
The problem with your logic, as you call it, is that its based upon your making up the facts as you go along. Your interpretation of the initial breakdowns in the sign up process have no support. They are no more than suppositions. Whether or not the ACA legislation follows a purely free market approach to health care insurance is irrelevant. there is no Constitutional requirement for “free market” mechanisms in our economy
The fact that you don’t care that the ACA legislation was passed by a majority vote in the Congress is irrelevant. Congress makes legislation. That the minority party is unhappy with the details of that legislation is not totally relevant and there are legitimate legislative procedures for all parties to revise current legislation. A minority faction of one party holding up other important legislation in order to hold for ransom their preferences for dismissing legitimate legislation is not one of those legitimate procedures.
“…the ACA has done NOTHING it has promised to do.” Again you’re making it up as you type. The ACA is only now going into full implementation. It has not even been in place yet so that it can be judged regarding the effect on health care costs. I’ve still got my health plan as it has been. I don’t know anyone who is complaining of a loss of coverage or a reduction in the quality of their coverage. Don’t make up your own reality and post it here in comments and expect to be taken seriously.
The problem with what you write, is that you need to read. The OP wrote “Since my current governor (and your future President) is a brain-dead idiot who does not believe in the free market or taking responsibility for his actions – “…indicting that the crashing of the ACA exchange servers was based on free market aggregate demand.
I have pointed out many points which you do not even attempt to dispute:
1) The crash could have nothing to do with demand, but bad implementations. CA’s original estimate ws what 3m hits, revised down to 750K…yeah, big demand.
2) Even if it is demand driven, the demand is NOT FREE MARKET BASED, as you cannot dispute that a) demand is driven by government coercion coupled with b) government coerced subsidies. Again, not disputed by you.
The ill effects of this law will be fully felt as it gets implemented, all I have pointed out that even in its limited implementation it has failed to live up to what was promised, again, not really in dispute by you.
That by the barest majorities on a pure party line vote based on parliamentary gimmickry is not the hall mark of any of the great massive social change legislation of the past like the Civil Rights Acts, Medicare, etc.
But hey, since you all don’t really care about the future generations and are more than willing to steal money from your children, children’s children, and their children in the form of trillion dollars of deficit spending, it seems like a great law…cause you aren’t paying for it. So yeah, enjoy living high on the hog off the largest wealth transfer from the poor but young and health to the rich but sick elderly, you won’t really see when the things blow up…yeah you!