I hope everyone spends some time noting the Victims of Communism Day. This is a good day to teach your kids the evil that was and is Communism in all its forms. From the genecide in Russia, the killing fields in Cambodia, to the mundane holding of executions by Che until he could arrive with his lunch, to the systematic mass slaughter that Mao undertook during the cultural revolution. This evil system is still taught in US University’s (surprisingly since the much less murderous fascist ideology is justifiably abhorrant in places of higher learning). This evil ideology gave us the top two mass murderers in the 20th century and continue to this day to provide the underpinnings of tyranny from China to Cuba.
Yet there are many on the left who still wish to go there…
you forgot to mention the first communists: those evil christians who said “from each according to his means, to each according to his needs.
or maybe we need a day to celebrate the genocide of the American Indians by those rugged individualists in the United States Army.
or, I suppose you could go over to Iraq or Afghanistan, or Vietnam and explain that our brave boys dropping napalm and HE from 50,000 feet on their children were only trying to save them from having to grow up under an evil communist government that would sell their labor cheap to those wonders of pfree enterprise like Nike…
Or maybe you might investigate and see if Gengis Khan, Tamburlane, Atila, Nero, … oh, you could look up the history of England or France, or even Norway and see if there were any large scale atrocities not commited by communists.
You know, just to see if it might have been something other than their economic ideas that led Stalin and Pol Pot and Hitler to their favorite management plans.
good to know that Hitler was much less murderous than those other guys. maybe we need to erect a statue to him on the Mall. “Much Less Murderous Than CCCommunists”
Notice I didn’t say anything about those upstanding Americans who think that putting a boy in prison for twenty years because he badmouthed the USof A, and looked for God in a country the US was about to bomb… is a fine and just way to teach him a lesson.
what about the damn commies who used spent uranium shells on iraq?
The Children of Fallujah – the hospital of horrors – Special Report day two: Stillbirths, disabilities, deformities too distressing to describe – what lies behind the torments in Fallujah General Hospital? The pictures flash up on a screen on an upper floor of the Fallujah General Hospital. And all at once, Nadhem Shokr al-Hadidi’s administration office becomes a little chamber of horrors. A baby with a hugely deformed mouth. A child with a defect of the spinal cord, material from the spine outside the body. A baby with a terrible, vast Cyclopean eye. Another baby with only half a head, stillborn like the rest, date of birth 17 June, 2009. Yet another picture flicks onto the screen: date of birth 6 July 2009, it shows a tiny child with half a right arm, no left leg, no genitalia.. …But the photographs are a damning, ghastly reward for such doubts. January 7, 2010: a baby with faded, yellow skin and misshapen arms. April 26, 2010: a grey mass on the side of the baby’s head. A doctor beside me speaks of “Tetralogy of Fallot”, a transposition of the great blood vessels. May 3, 2010: a frog-like creature in which – the Fallujah doctor who came into the room says this – “all the abdominal organs are trying to get outside the body.” This is too much. These photographs are too awful, the pain and emotion of them – for the poor parents, at least – impossible to contemplate.
i am babbling about you. You think you have said something profound when you say that Communists are evil. Because you don’t seem to know a damn thing about all the other evil that has been committed in the world. Some of it from 50,000 ft.
I think there is probably some excuse for a soldier who is following orders and has never had to think in his life. But that doesn’t mean i am going to sit here quietly while you excuse all the evil that leads to all the evil… so that you and your friends can yell “communist!” and feel good about being what everyone else in the world recognizes as evil.
But in case your question was more specific… a young man, child really, who seems to have worried a lot about God and couldn’t find Him in a suburban church thought he might find Him by studying Islam in Afghanistan… stupid in my opinion, but no more stupid than most teen agers. Certainly not as stupid as someone who joins the army to go kill commies. And while he is in Afghanistan does get just as stupid as someone who joins the army… and joins the Taliban army to fight the Evil Warlords. Only to find out after he joins that his own country has decided to go to war against the Taliban, and to decide that ex post facto that makes him a criminal. And a judge…the sort of judge for whom hell had to be invented… decides that because he carried an explosive… on the battlefield… in the commission of his “crime” he can add ten more years on his sentence.
The kid is still in jail. Ought to be over thirty by now.
Buff, let us be clear. This is evil. This is the kind of evil that created Communists and Terrorists and other stupid people who think they are fighting for “the good” because they are fighting against the evil of the other side.
The PBS Frontline series on the financial crisis gave well deserved beat downs to a number of organizations and people, but the two most interesting were:
The beat down of Obama and Geithner for adopting the Geithner position of kid glove treatment of the TBTF bankers.
The direct and major role of Goldman Sachs in destroying the Greek economy and deceiving the Euro zoner countries.
Tyrants of all ideological stripes are responsible for a great deal of human misery throughout the history of mankind. Buff only.thinks about the evil done in the name of his ideological enemies. Frankly I’d question the legitimacy of any economic identification used by any tyrant to legitimize their use of murder and misery to retain their own wealth and power.
Tyrants of all ideological stripes are responsible for a great deal of human misery throughout the history of mankind. Buff only.thinks about the evil done in the name of his ideological enemies. Frankly I’d question the legitimacy of any economic identification used by any tyrant to legitimize their use of murder and misery to retain their own wealth and power.
Tyrants of all ideological stripes are responsible for a great deal of human misery throughout the history of mankind. Buff only.thinks about the evil done in the name of his ideological enemies. Frankly I’d question the legitimacy of any economic identification used by any tyrant to legitimize their use of murder and misery to retain their own wealth and power.
i do think Abe Lincoln put it best in his second inagural address. “Both … pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. “Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.” Note that in reality preachers being wronged Allah is just a different face of the god of Abraham than the christian one. So Lincoln was more right than he thought.
thanks. i don’t have access to TV any more, but I am glad to hear that PBS has found a way to tell the truth again.
oddly coincident it was Buff’s take on the Greek problem… lazy greeks borrowing too much money… that sent me looking for the rest of the story.
and of course Goldman has a finger in destroying the American economy, and guess where we find our Treasury Secretaries and Presidential advisors.
Can’t help noting in this context that I recently read a Prudential Insurance lying report about Social Security. Prudential was the sole corporate sponsor of Bill Moyers when he hosted Pete Peterson twice without rebuttal.
i wouldn’t be so sure what Lincoln thought. I am reasonably sure that if I had lived in 1860 i would have been against Lincoln re the war. Let the damn fools go, I would have said.
But with a hundred and fifty years of hindsight and some historians who convinced me they were honest, and some who convinced me they were dishonest, I think Lincoln may have seen further than I could see, and was forced to accept the evil of war as less evil than the consequences of a slave empire … or the “constitutional” extension of slavery (property rights) to the North.
I still don’t think war is “the answer” but i am more inclined to draw the line at the way the war is conducted, or “which war,” than to say categorically that no war is ever necessary.
Trouble is, we don’t have any Lincolns in the White House, and maybe “no war” is the best the people can do to stop “this” war.
I hope everyone spends some time noting the Victims of Communism Day. This is a good day to teach your kids the evil that was and is Communism in all its forms. From the genecide in Russia, the killing fields in Cambodia, to the mundane holding of executions by Che until he could arrive with his lunch, to the systematic mass slaughter that Mao undertook during the cultural revolution. This evil system is still taught in US University’s (surprisingly since the much less murderous fascist ideology is justifiably abhorrant in places of higher learning). This evil ideology gave us the top two mass murderers in the 20th century and continue to this day to provide the underpinnings of tyranny from China to Cuba.
Yet there are many on the left who still wish to go there…
Islam will change
buff
you forgot to mention the first communists: those evil christians who said “from each according to his means, to each according to his needs.
or maybe we need a day to celebrate the genocide of the American Indians by those rugged individualists in the United States Army.
or, I suppose you could go over to Iraq or Afghanistan, or Vietnam and explain that our brave boys dropping napalm and HE from 50,000 feet on their children were only trying to save them from having to grow up under an evil communist government that would sell their labor cheap to those wonders of pfree enterprise like Nike…
Or maybe you might investigate and see if Gengis Khan, Tamburlane, Atila, Nero, … oh, you could look up the history of England or France, or even Norway and see if there were any large scale atrocities not commited by communists.
You know, just to see if it might have been something other than their economic ideas that led Stalin and Pol Pot and Hitler to their favorite management plans.
btw
good to know that Hitler was much less murderous than those other guys. maybe we need to erect a statue to him on the Mall. “Much Less Murderous Than CCCommunists”
Notice I didn’t say anything about those upstanding Americans who think that putting a boy in prison for twenty years because he badmouthed the USof A, and looked for God in a country the US was about to bomb… is a fine and just way to teach him a lesson.
coberly, what are you babbling about?
Islam will change
what about the damn commies who used spent uranium shells on iraq?
The Children of Fallujah – the hospital of horrors – Special Report day two: Stillbirths, disabilities, deformities too distressing to describe – what lies behind the torments in Fallujah General Hospital? The pictures flash up on a screen on an upper floor of the Fallujah General Hospital. And all at once, Nadhem Shokr al-Hadidi’s administration office becomes a little chamber of horrors. A baby with a hugely deformed mouth. A child with a defect of the spinal cord, material from the spine outside the body. A baby with a terrible, vast Cyclopean eye. Another baby with only half a head, stillborn like the rest, date of birth 17 June, 2009. Yet another picture flicks onto the screen: date of birth 6 July 2009, it shows a tiny child with half a right arm, no left leg, no genitalia.. …But the photographs are a damning, ghastly reward for such doubts. January 7, 2010: a baby with faded, yellow skin and misshapen arms. April 26, 2010: a grey mass on the side of the baby’s head. A doctor beside me speaks of “Tetralogy of Fallot”, a transposition of the great blood vessels. May 3, 2010: a frog-like creature in which – the Fallujah doctor who came into the room says this – “all the abdominal organs are trying to get outside the body.” This is too much. These photographs are too awful, the pain and emotion of them – for the poor parents, at least – impossible to contemplate.
So who thinks this Afghanistan trip is a political stunt? How many a legitimate POTUs function?
Just wondering.
Buff
i am babbling about you. You think you have said something profound when you say that Communists are evil. Because you don’t seem to know a damn thing about all the other evil that has been committed in the world. Some of it from 50,000 ft.
I think there is probably some excuse for a soldier who is following orders and has never had to think in his life. But that doesn’t mean i am going to sit here quietly while you excuse all the evil that leads to all the evil… so that you and your friends can yell “communist!” and feel good about being what everyone else in the world recognizes as evil.
But in case your question was more specific… a young man, child really, who seems to have worried a lot about God and couldn’t find Him in a suburban church thought he might find Him by studying Islam in Afghanistan… stupid in my opinion, but no more stupid than most teen agers. Certainly not as stupid as someone who joins the army to go kill commies. And while he is in Afghanistan does get just as stupid as someone who joins the army… and joins the Taliban army to fight the Evil Warlords. Only to find out after he joins that his own country has decided to go to war against the Taliban, and to decide that ex post facto that makes him a criminal. And a judge…the sort of judge for whom hell had to be invented… decides that because he carried an explosive… on the battlefield… in the commission of his “crime” he can add ten more years on his sentence.
The kid is still in jail. Ought to be over thirty by now.
Buff, let us be clear. This is evil. This is the kind of evil that created Communists and Terrorists and other stupid people who think they are fighting for “the good” because they are fighting against the evil of the other side.
The devil fights on both sides of every war.
Hey, man, it’s about Haymarket Square and the repressive cops owned by the bosses! Don’t you know nothin’?
It’s legit. He signed a formal agreement with the Afghan government and did not land on a carrier.
A formal agreement with an incredibly corrupt government (?).
Time to come home.
The PBS Frontline series on the financial crisis gave well deserved beat downs to a number of organizations and people, but the two most interesting were:
The beat down of Obama and Geithner for adopting the Geithner position of kid glove treatment of the TBTF bankers.
The direct and major role of Goldman Sachs in destroying the Greek economy and deceiving the Euro zoner countries.
Watch all four parts. Very interesting.
buff:
And also the Domino theory which sent a whole generation of us to war. You have more to fear from the economic warfare today.
& he concluded with a speech “7:30 New York time and Middle of the Freaking Night Afghanistan time”. ..
Tyrants of all ideological stripes are responsible for a great deal of human misery throughout the history of mankind. Buff only.thinks about the evil done in the name of his ideological enemies. Frankly I’d question the legitimacy of any economic identification used by any tyrant to legitimize their use of murder and misery to retain their own wealth and power.
Tyrants of all ideological stripes are responsible for a great deal of human misery throughout the history of mankind. Buff only.thinks about the evil done in the name of his ideological enemies. Frankly I’d question the legitimacy of any economic identification used by any tyrant to legitimize their use of murder and misery to retain their own wealth and power.
Tyrants of all ideological stripes are responsible for a great deal of human misery throughout the history of mankind. Buff only.thinks about the evil done in the name of his ideological enemies. Frankly I’d question the legitimacy of any economic identification used by any tyrant to legitimize their use of murder and misery to retain their own wealth and power.
STR–Incredibly corrupt governments are where you find them. After all, we have the best Congress money can buy as the Super PACS can attest. NancyO
i do think Abe Lincoln put it best in his second inagural address.
“Both … pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. “Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.”
Note that in reality preachers being wronged Allah is just a different face of the god of Abraham than the christian one. So Lincoln was more right than he thought.
rusty
thanks. i don’t have access to TV any more, but I am glad to hear that PBS has found a way to tell the truth again.
oddly coincident it was Buff’s take on the Greek problem… lazy greeks borrowing too much money… that sent me looking for the rest of the story.
and of course Goldman has a finger in destroying the American economy, and guess where we find our Treasury Secretaries and Presidential advisors.
Can’t help noting in this context that I recently read a Prudential Insurance lying report about Social Security. Prudential was the sole corporate sponsor of Bill Moyers when he hosted Pete Peterson twice without rebuttal.
lyle
i wouldn’t be so sure what Lincoln thought. I am reasonably sure that if I had lived in 1860 i would have been against Lincoln re the war. Let the damn fools go, I would have said.
But with a hundred and fifty years of hindsight and some historians who convinced me they were honest, and some who convinced me they were dishonest, I think Lincoln may have seen further than I could see, and was forced to accept the evil of war as less evil than the consequences of a slave empire … or the “constitutional” extension of slavery (property rights) to the North.
I still don’t think war is “the answer” but i am more inclined to draw the line at the way the war is conducted, or “which war,” than to say categorically that no war is ever necessary.
Trouble is, we don’t have any Lincolns in the White House, and maybe “no war” is the best the people can do to stop “this” war.
Luckily, we now have the internet.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/money-power-wall-street/
You can watch it online.
“Yet there are many on the left who still wish to go there…”
This statement is pure bulls***.
J Goodwin
thanks. i’ll have to find a computer with a faster modem.
Luckily I still have friends. A few.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k-baKf8Cx98/T5-4vvuqUUI/AAAAAAAAAM4/lDiUIMDFXL4/s733/2012-05-01
What determines US short interest rates?
US Hegemony.
*waves*