Open thread Jan. 20, 2012 Dan Crawford | January 20, 2012 11:28 pm Tags: open thread Comments (3) | Digg Facebook Twitter |
I posted this at EconomistView:
Interesting difference between exploiting “hard to get/fracking needed” natural gas in US localities and exploiting “Methane clathrate, also called methane hydrate, hydromethane, methane ice, “fire ice”, natural gas hydrate or just gas hydrate, is a solid clathrate compound (more specifically, a clathrate hydrate) in which a large amount of methane is trapped within a crystal structure of water, forming a solid similar to ice.” wiki article.
Huge sources exist in the deep continental shelves off the US East and Gulf coasts as well in the North Pacific. Lots of the frozen methane trapped in the “tundra”.
This stuff has been known for years and the decision to go slow is because of the fear of releasing complex hydro-carbons.
And maybe put enough methane on the market to shutdown Persian Gulf gas.
We should be a bit concerned with thawing tundra and the release of gases from thawing ice methane.
Keep on fracking!
With disapproving Keystone might we discuss the environment?
Methane is poisonous to most animals, right? Ummm. Do you suppose we should stick to electric power generated via solar/wind and stored distributively in addition to through a grid structure? If the need for replacing existing grids could be reduced the money saved could be used to development other forms of energy such as the ones I cite and biodiesel, etc. for trains and bulk transport. NancyO
ah, nancy, i am on your side, but
solar and wind are not even close to providing the “needs” of our industrial civilization. and we haven’t even begun to seriously find ways not to waste energy. and from what i have seen the powers and the people who follow them will poison your children before they will give up a dollar of petroleum based profit. or the pfreedom to drive the biggest car they can afford, or life destroying “commutes” to a job the don’t even like.