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Zombie EV sales

Joel Eissenberg | November 10, 2023 1:47 pm

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A commenter on AB recently noted that EVs are dead, to which I responded that there sure are a lot of zombie EVs here in East Providence.

Kevin Drum has a post up about EVs showing that zombie EVs have been proliferating exponentially since 2011 and arithmetically since 2020. So many dead EVs. Who knew?

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  • Ten Bears says:
    November 10, 2023 at 2:05 pm

    There’s enough of them out there to start noticing differences. I’m not just saying that because I’m one of them, there’s enough of them out there to start noticing the differences in how they look and behave. No tailpipe, no grill … no gas. Get’s up and walks away from tail-gating jacked-up, de-engineered suburban assault vehicles with tires the size of my eMini and the hood tailgate ornament a perfect rendition of the human female reproductive system like it’s standing still … yeah, good chance it’s an electric. Grant, these day’s I’m in Greater BA, but it doesn’t take more than a couple minutes driving to see one

    I think it’s obvious this is all gas company gaslighting …

  • Ken Houghton says:
    November 10, 2023 at 5:57 pm

    There are more Zombies than you think out there, including mine.

    From 2025, even the non-TSLA EVs will use the poorly-made TSLA charger as the Industry Standard.  Taking bets what that means for those of us who (unfortunately) weren’t stupid enough to buy poor craftsmanship at inflated prices?

    There are a lot of Zombie EVs out there.  They just haven’t looking in the mirror and seen the maggots on their chin.  Only a fool would buy one this year.

    • Joel Eissenberg says:
      November 10, 2023 at 7:10 pm

      @Ken,

      LOL! And yet, East Providence is crawling with them. Back before we moved, I’d see three or four Teslas in St. Louis whenever I went out grocery shopping. 

      I haven’t bought an EV yet, in part because 80% of electricity in RI is generated by natural gas, so driving an EV here means you’re burning methane instead of gasoline. Yes, EVs are about twice as efficient in converting energy into motive force, but it still isn’t all that green here.

    • Ten Bears says:
      November 10, 2023 at 7:40 pm

      My most common drive is once or twice a week three miles to Stop $ Shop, and again granting I’m now someplace with more people than even Seattle I’m comfortable that in a round trip I’ll see probably five Muskmobiles, maybe two or three other readily recognizables, whither I ‘know’ them, they’re plated ev or any of the aforementioned ~ forgot about the blue lettering in trim. That’s not necessarily paying direct attention to the cars, we’re talking about Massholes here, but I would not be surprised at twenty or twenty-five for a six mile drive

      Seems to me you could go a lot further on electricity charged by a gallon of methane than you would a gallon of gas, emit less carbon, but I’m not sure how you would calculate that, what the equation would be

      I’m still doing the math, but at ten months I still haven’t seen an appreciable increase in my power bill, and I’ve yet to access a commercial port …

      • Joel Eissenberg says:
        November 10, 2023 at 8:12 pm

        “Muskmobiles”

        I’m totally stealing that.

         

  • Garry G says:
    November 10, 2023 at 7:32 pm

    There may be a slight downturn in sales right now due to tax credit issue.  I put off buying a Cadillac Lyriq until January because starting in January the dealership can directly apply the $7500 tax credit to the transaction.  

    • Joel Eissenberg says:
      November 10, 2023 at 8:13 pm

      @Garry,

      Battery charge time: 10.7h at 220V

      • Eric377 says:
        November 11, 2023 at 7:32 am

        Seems nuts, but any idea if the charge/charge time is maybe non-linear somehow?  Like 100% is 10+ hours, but 85% is only 5?

        • Ten Bears says:
          November 12, 2023 at 4:13 am

          Makes perfect sense, if you know anything about batteries …

    • Ten Bears says:
      November 11, 2023 at 4:52 am

      Seems like that rebate is for cars that haven’t been built yet. We didn’t/won’t get it: short range and the car was built entirely in England. The only way we could qualify is if by the end of the year someone starts selling a bigger battery built in America (to BMW specs) and though my 220 doesn’t seem to be that slow I generally use the 110 and it’s overnight for up to a fifty percent charge ~ yeah it’s slow

      I’ve found treat it like any-other electronic device: phone tablet or laptop, charge it back up when done using it, unplug it, it’s ready for the next use

  • SW says:
    November 11, 2023 at 8:52 am

    I will purchase one as soon as I can get V2H charging on something other than a Nissan Leaf.

  • Jackd says:
    November 11, 2023 at 11:13 am

    Part of the earlier comment referred to in the lead post noted that auto manufacturers were slowing and reducing production of electric vehicles because of slow sales largely due to high prices as well as limited range for those wishing to use them for road trips as well as errands and commuting.

    • Eric377 says:
      November 11, 2023 at 12:21 pm

      I have also read that in California the market has pretty well reached most of the early adapters and the age of the vehicles is pretty compressed in the newer direction.  Not much replacement buying and into the “need to convince more” new purchasers.  The pretty obvious way to move those people are better prices if they can get costs down.  It will be real interesting.  With these new UAW contracts I suspect that the big 3 will concentrate on ICE models.  They won’t make big announcements to that effect, but they can’t survive on thin or negative margins that probably will be with the EV markets for 5 or 10 years.

  • JaneE says:
    November 11, 2023 at 1:36 pm

    Since last summer, I have seen Ioniqs, BMW’s, Rivians, one Lucid, and too many Tesla’s to count, more than one model.   And the Toyota electric SUV.  Before that it was almost entirely Teslas.   Lots of them.  

    Hybrids were a very niche market at the turn of the century.  Now they are just another option and almost every manufacturer has (or had) one.  I hope the regular car manufacturers get into the market as well as the pure start ups, because I am used to their layout and controls.  Easier to transition to EV, if you only have to re-learn half of what it takes to make your car work. 

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