What Bernie Sanders is doing to help Hillary Clinton [UPDATED]
One charge against Sanders by the likes of Paul Krugman that I just could not abide—there were others, but this post is about this one—was that while Clinton was actively soliciting campaign funds for the Democratic Party to use for down-ballot candidates, Sanders was not. In a post here about that a couple of weeks ago I pointed out that Sanders and his campaign will be playing a large role both in soliciting campaign funds from ordinary individuals for down-ballot campaigns—especially congressional campaigns—simply through ActBlue.com’s huge database of Sanders donors, and that in fact those solicitations already had begun. ActBlue.com is the organization that Sanders donors use to make their donations.
I also said that Sanders will play a large part in garnering support for Senate and House candidates simply by noting as he campaigns with candidates that he remains a senator and he, Elizabeth Warren and the other few real progressives in Congress need a Democratic-controlled Congress for their policy proposals to get heard in Congress.
Today I received this email message:
Beverly —
As Democrats, we believe that no one who works hard every day should have to live in poverty because they’re paid a minimum wage that’s too low. We know that climate change is a challenge we must confront. We believe no young person should have to spend so much on a college education that they end up shackled by years of debt.
And we know that we can never, never allow Donald Trump to become President of the United States.
Will you donate $3 or more today to help keep that from happening and to elect Democrats who will fight for everything we believe in?
If you’ve saved your payment information, your donation will go through immediately.
Or donate another amount.
Any Republican president would put President Obama’s progress on economic security in danger, make moves to repeal health care reform that millions of Americans are now relying on, and try to move backwards on the steps we’ve taken these past seven years to make our country more equal and more fair.But it’s clear that Trump — with his repugnant attitude toward women, immigrants, Muslim-Americans, and pretty much anyone he comes across — is the worst of the bunch.
We’re going to be going up against him this fall. So right now, I’m asking you to pitch in $3 or whatever you can so that we can stop Donald Trump and his fellow Republicans:
https://my.democrats.org/Stop-Donald-Trump
Thank you,
Hillary
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Paid for by the Democratic National Committee, 430 South Capitol Street SE, Washington DC 20003 and not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee. Contributions or gifts to the Democratic National Committee are not tax deductible.
There is, I believe, no way that the Clinton campaign would have my email address—that ActBlue would forward it to the Clinton campaign—unless the Sanders campaign agreed at the Clinton campaign’s request to allow it.
Me? I’m delighted. I’m with him. But I’m also now with her. There’s no conflict there; she will be the nominee, and he will play a large role in policy matters, during the campaign and during the Clinton administration.
As for the message itself, I think the tone was pretty near perfect at this stage, as an opener.
I think Clinton has made some serious blunders in the last few days. I have no idea why, for example, she thinks she needs to do anything affirmative to gain the votes of moderate Republicans, least of all by rehashing what everyone already knows about Trump. Just as I don’t know why she thinks women who place a great deal of importance on electing a woman as president need to reminded that she is one and if elected will be the first. I don’t share her fondness for highlighting the obvious or the already-very-well-known.
And her decision to court, in personal phone solicitations, no less, Republican donors, as the NYT reported two or three days ago—Wall Street ones and others—is stupefying. Money for TV ads and the like will be far less important than handing Trump, who apparently now expects to be mostly self-funding his campaign because there aren’t all that many Republican donors who want him elected, such tangible campaign arguments to make in his own TV commercials and at his rallies and in interviews. Trump is a New Yorker; he probably reads the New York Times. (Well, okay, Paul Manafort probably reads the New York Times.)
Like ordinary voters—actually, even more so, probably—these donors will decide to support Clinton, or not, based not on Clinton but on Trump. But that is less likely to be so for many Sanders supporters than for most other voters. Her campaign priorities are skewed here, illustrating yet again her lack of agility in recognizing the differences between this campaign year and, well, others. Jeb Bush had record amounts of money.
But this post is about Bernie Sanders and his campaign. And I’m happy that he and it took the step they took.
And I’ll offer this tip to Clinton now that I’m WithHer: A key to beating Trump is to point out that on fiscal and other domestic policy at least, the election contest will not be to determine whether there will be another President Clinton or instead a President Trump. There will be either a new President Clinton or a President Manafort.
Every time Trump tries to hint at the beginning of a back-away from Conservative Movement fiscal and other domestic policy, and toward some genuine economic-populist fiscal and anti-Chamber of Commerce regulatory policy, Edgar Bergen, er, Paul Manafort, quickly aborts it.
This will be a source of amusement for me going forward, although less so if Clinton fails to note this early and often, whether for fear of losing campaign donations or otherwise. And less so still if she appears to be running as President Manafort Light.
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UPDATE: Yikes. Yves Smith posted this comment at Naked Capitalism:
What Bernie Sanders is doing to help Hillary Clinton Beverly Mann, Angry Bear. I am posting this only because I am just about certain this is wrong. Mann is almost certainly correct on her opening point, Sanders will help on downticket Democratic party races, but I assume he will help only ideologically aligned Dems, not the remaining Blue Dogs. But if these Congresscritters are to the left of Clinton, they could serve to keep her honest (or more accurately, less dishonest) rather than “help” her. But I am certain she is wrong about her getting an anti-Trump DNC message via Bernie sharing his list with her. First, I am told by someone in the Sanders operation that Sanders will not do that (although there is the risk that his list is hacked or stolen). Second, I have given to Sanders via ActBlue and have gotten no such message. Third, as a blogger, I have gotten DNC propaganda upon occasion, including solicitations, before I gave to Sanders (and I haven’t given to anyone save a couple of locals via check since I gave a mere $20 to Obama as a result of seeing Palin’s acceptance speech). Every time I unsubscribe. Mann has written often about Clinton and Sanders, so I suspect she got added to the list that way.
Sooo … I was wrong in my assumption about the underlying source of that DNC email to me.
Meanwhile, reader EMichael linked in the Comments thread to this article today by Matthew Yglesias at Vox. I responded to EMichael’s comment:
Nice article. Thanks for linking to it. I don’t read Vox; I don’t care much for it. So I probably wouldn’t have known of the article otherwise.
I’m really glad to see someone with a high profile say what I, a low-profile type, have been saying here at AB for weeks now.
The Yglesias article is titled “The real reason Bernie Sanders will enthusiastically back Hillary Clinton in November.”
So I guess the bottom line is that Sanders indeed is helping Clinton, just not directly. Not yet.
Added 5/10 at 12:14 p.m.
I’ll voter for Hillary over Trump but have very low expectations for a Hillary Presidency.
What do her supporters expect her to accomplish? Better Supreme Court picks. Better FOMC picks. Small increase in taxes on the rich. Small expansion of health care reform. $100 billion a year in fiscal action which isn’t enough.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she gives nothing to the Left, and instead flips on TPP and bombs Syria, etc. If she moves too far to the right she can expect a primary challenge I bet.
Peter:
What have you been doing?
Every Krugman post like the one today makes me less likely to support generic Dems , now or ever. Krugman does serve to make me have greater trust in my instincts , so I guess i should thank him for that. I’ll directly support progressive Dems or Independents , but I won’t send a penny to the DNC or other generic Dem fundraisers. Not that they give a damn – not when the Wall Street and AIPAC oligarchs are so generous with funds.
I’ll vote for and support Jill Stein in the hopes that a competitive and truly progressive third party will arise over time. If and when it does , my support for even those nominally progressive Dems will cease , should they choose to remain in that putrified rump of an organization.
My experience with my late fathers 2000 contribution is that even after I tell them he is deceased they keep asking him for money. (It took about 14 years for this to stop) So it looks like making a donation to a political party is like checking into a roach motel. (This was the R party but I suspect the D party does the same)
One of the most remarkable features of American presidential politics is how profoundly anti-democratic they are.
According to Stan Greenberg, just 15% of folks view CEOs favorably, 20% view Wall Street favorably and 19% view trickle-down economics favorably. Who’s to blame? 62% blame the politicians.
According to the WSJ, “Hillary Clinton is consolidating her support among Wall Street donors and other businesses ahead of a general-election battle with Donald Trump, winning more campaign contributions from financial-services executives in the most recent fundraising period than all other candidates combined.”
Yet now, when, again according to Greenberg, more than 82% of folks believe the economy is rigged – more than 4 in 5 Americans! – we hear the argument that we should support the neo-liberal politician with the closest ties to Wall Street CEOs.
With all due respect, anyone who makes the argument that we must all rally around HRH HRC should see a mental health professional, who would remind them that doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity.
We never seem to be in a position to vote for; we always seem to be guided by voting against – and every single time we do so, we betray ourselves – we consciously betray our very selves. It’s masochistic. It’s profoundly anti-democratic.
Any intellectually honest person must recognize and admit that a vote for HRC is a vote in favor of the neo-liberal economic agenda, a vote in favor of a neo-con foreign policy and further military aggression, and a vote in favor of perpetuating the power and influence of Wall Street CEOs – a vote against our own self-interests as Progressives and as Americans who have been sold down the river.
The BS that Hillary is helping the democratic party fund raising; is like those charities you donate too, only later find out little to nothing actually go to those who need help.
“The Democratic front-runner says she’s raising big checks to help state committees, but they’ve gotten to keep only 1 percent of the $60 million raised.”
By Kenneth P. Vogel and Isaac Arnsdorf
05/02/16 05:21 AM EDT
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/clinton-fundraising-leaves-little-for-state-parties-222670#ixzz48Fiwd1F7
” a vote against our own self-interests as Progressives”
Don’t know much about history
Don’t know much biology
Don’t know much about a science book
Don’t know much about the French I took
But I do know that I love you
And I know that if you love me, too
What a wonderful world this would be
Don’t know much about geography
Don’t know much trigonometry
Don’t know much about algebra
Don’t know what a slide rule is for
Great oldie, not much of a way to think though.
EMichael,
Among the other faults in your thinking is that you imagine that Liberal and Progressive are the same. They aren’t. You need only visit the Hillary and Bernie websites to discern the difference but you can’t seem to muster the interest or energy to do even that one simple thing. For you the greatest virtue seems to be having an opinion — and pronouncing on it — rather than examining facts and arriving at an informed opinion. For whatever reason, you and Hillary feel the need to call yourselves Progressives, when you are not, and thus end up singing the same old boring song, insisting it’s music.
Ms 57,
Nice strawman there.
You might find it interesting that not everyone that voted for the Civil Rights Act was a progressive. There were also many liberals.
And now you are the tenth person who has told me that I am a Clinton supporter when I am a Sanders supporter. Just because I feel strongly that the DP is more important than either candidate does not mean I am a Clinton supporter.
Your accusations say a lot more about you than about me. And sadly is the main reason this country is as conservative as it is.
To argue that the Democratic Party is a progressive political institution proves your confusion.
And I’ve talked with many Bernie supporters, none of whom — not one — has demonstrated such reflexive attacks on him and arguments in favor of the Anointed One. With friends like you, who needs enemies.
You are profoundly lost, my friend. You prove the truism in the old canard about opinions and assholes. What good is having one if it’s so uninformed? You would be much better off turning off your computer for awhile and doing some reading, then some thinking; they don’t hurt, I promise you.
Another one.
Why we can’t have nice things. Like the New Deal. Like the Civil Rights Act. Like Medicare. Like the ACA.
You ignore the history of the progressive movement in the US and then tell me I should think.
At least some people can addd and know their history.
“As Bernie Sanders’s odds of winning the Democratic Party nomination have shrunk toward nothingness, talk has naturally turned to party unity. Sanders is promising to do everything in his power to keep Republicans out of the White House, but also suggesting that concessions may be needed from the Clinton camp to spur enthusiasm on the part of his voters.
The reality, however, is that nobody is better positioned to make the case to Sanders voters than Sanders himself. And Sanders already has all the reasons he could possibly need to give Clinton his full-throated support.
Thanks to the primaries, Sanders has emerged as a substantial factional leader inside the Democratic Party — someone whose statements and tweets will garner media attention, whose email list will be coveted and envied by other Democrats in Congress, and whose support or opposition to a measure will matter to a national constituency. That gives him, potentially, considerably more influence over national affairs than he’s had in his previous 25 years in Washington. But essentially all of that influence hinges on Clinton winning the election in November.”
http://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11615720/bernie-sanders-will-back-hillary
Nice article. Thanks for linking to it. I don’t read Vox; I don’t care much for it. So I probably wouldn’t have known of the article otherwise.
I’m really glad to see someone with a high profile say what I, a low-profile type, have been saying here at AB for weeks now.
EMichael:
It would be good to see HRC edge left and take on some of Bernie’s points. We do need change and this would be one way to start the change to being progressive.
Let us see what the neoliberals of Democratic Party have done.
ACA increases health insurance cost and cuts Medicare; plus expanding the most expensive private health care system on the Planet Earth.
CPI cuts SS benefits for the poorest citizens.
beene:
PPACA reduces the overall healthcare (this is not insurance) cost increases from double digits, reverses the trend of people being uninsured, and improves overall healthcare provided. No where did it cut Medicare.
Run, it’s a complex issue. I found many articles and the one from politifact.com seems to gives what is exactly cut.
The real issue in this election is if history holds true…….Hillary (neoliberal) will see more losses in house and senate. I also agree with the article posted by Michael that in the end if Bernie losses at the convention he will support Hillary.
“Our ruling
In its ad against Sink, the NRCC said the Affordable Care Act includes a “$700 billion cut from Medicare for seniors.” There is reduction in spending to Medicare outlays, but it’s fueled by finding savings in the program, a move that Republicans actually supported in the Ryan budget. Medicare spending still increases in the coming years.
We rate the statement Half True.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/feb/14/national-republican-congressional-committee/nrcc-says-obamacare-cuts-money-medicare-and-senior/
beene:
Did you read this? Are you aware the Advantage Plans offer similar care as Medicare and are subsidized by the Gov. and your taxes. They are paid a premium above what Medicare gets. In case you did not read it, here is what the article said:
Obamacare does not literally cut funding from the Medicare budget, but tries to bring down future health care costs in the program. Much of this is accomplished by reducing Medicare Advantage, a small subset of Medicare plans that are run by private insurers.
President George W. Bush started Medicare Advantage in hopes the increased competition would reduce costs. But those plans are actually costlier than traditional Medicare. So the health care law reduces payments to private insurers.
Hospitals, too, will be paid less if they have too many re-admissions, or if they fail to meet other new benchmarks for patient care.
The goal is get health care providers to increase their efficiency and quality of care instead of cutting benefits for seniors.
It is not true.
Run,
You should run away from that person. Like taking to a kitchen table.
EM:
Do you think we can hurry this election up and be done with it? Some of the comments need a lot of help.
I sent this video to Krugman and suggested he submit it for this week’s “Friday Night Music” column. Think he’ll use it ? :
I’m guessing , probably not ……
” Dead heat: Trump, Clinton tied in 3 swing-state polls … The poll shows close races in Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-clinton-florida-ohio-pennsylvania-222994
“….With voters split along lines of gender, race and age, the presumptive Republican nominee and the likely Democratic nominee appear poised for tight battles in those states, though Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders performs better against Trump than Clinton does and is also seen more favorably by voters in all three states. No presidential candidate has won an election since 1960 without winning at least two of the three states. “
Marko,
So… Sanders is seen most favorably by voters in all three states, but won’t appear on the ballot in any of the three states. Yet, to openly advocate that those voters write-in the name of the one candidate they prefer — the candidate they would vote for were his name on the ballot — would amount to the naïve idealism of two-year old obstructing and ignoring the reality of presidential politics.
One of the most remarkable features of American presidential politics is how profoundly anti-democratic they are.
Ms 57 ,
Yep , profoundly anti-democratic and profoundly pro-stupid.
By almost all accounts , a Trump presidency poses an existential threat to the republic that exceeds the combined threats of thermonuclear war and catastrophic climate change , yet we’ve chosen a candidate to oppose him who has among the highest “unfavorability” ratings of any candidate in history – something we’ve known from day one – over an honest , authentic candidate who almost everyone likes – including many Republicans.
Simply put , we – the Democratic Party – are morons ( present company excluded , of course ).
From the points and arguments made in everything said in this blog you could have run Jesus as a candidate for either party and the opposing party with and in today’s terms and values would still have crucified him. As for colonel Sanders all he had to say is that he was going to give everybody free chicken and he would have gotten the nomination in my opinion. But in reality we are all either going to be Clintontized or Trumpmatized for the next 4.5 years. I think I will just go open a can of American beer and enjoy the political entertainment as a new American sport every night.
Good news Bill! Budweiser is rebranding their beer until the election as ‘America’. So you can open a can of ‘America’ American beer all election season.
What could be more appropriate than beer for a commercial product named ” America ” ? I can’t think of anything better . Too bad the name change wasn’t done before this shot was taken :
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1605/logs/apr22/media/1605beercan.html
BTW , another company is using the same idea for this election season. They’ll be rebranding their product ” Democracy ” :
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/okeanos/explorations/ex1605/logs/apr22/media/1605spam-590.jpg
Again , perfect ……
Run if we want to say something positive about Obama and Medicare, we can say Obama fixed the donut hole in Bush’s Part D. Plus, Obama eliminated private insurers from dropping people from their health insurance plans when they got sick.
Medicare Advantage is just another expensive alternative to original Medicare with the taxpayer paying private insurers plus payments from the government. IMHO it’s a rip off of the taxpayer to subsidize private companies to cover a segment of the population (older people) which would be cheaper if it was covered under Medicare.
“Since the 1970s, Medicare beneficiaries have had the option to receive their Medicare benefits through private health plans, mainly HMOs, as an alternative to Original Medicare. The Balanced Budget Act of 1997 named Medicare’s managed care program Medicare+Choice and the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003 renamed it “Medicare Advantage.”” WIKI
“One of the most remarkable features of American presidential politics is how profoundly anti-democratic they are.”
Ms 57
Finally. Coming to you this way since 1788.
Nice to see people finally figuring it out.
Two things here.
That Quinnipiac poll is beyond silly as it totally ignores demographic history,
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/05/black_and_latino_voters_aren_t_going_anywhere.html
And this constant “Bernie has a better chance than HRC” polling is a total waste of time. Sanders has flown under the radar in this primary subjected to few, if any, negative ads at all. Even the pro Clinton PK columns(which have got many Sanders supporters up in arms) are silly little things.
His past has been left alone by HRC. I would like to think it is because she is taking the high road and running a positive campaign, but I think it is simply a result of her thinking she did not have to go negative.
Trump would go negative, and there are a entire slew of really fen scary truths about Sanders that the vast majority of Americans have no idea about.
“….there are a entire slew of really fen scary truths about Sanders that the vast majority of Americans have no idea about. ”
So , enlighten us.
Or are you just full of fen BS ?
” Exclusive: Trump surges in support, almost even with Clinton in national U.S. poll ”
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0Y21TN
If TPTB want Clinton to win , they better move the election up to like , oh , next month maybe ?
Six more months of seeing and hearing Hillary herself , non-stop ( the nation cringes at the thought ) , and six months of learning new details about Hillary the War-Hawk and Hillary the [ Wall Street / Major Media / Israel / Kissinger / Any and Every Kind of Big Money ] suckup by people who have thus far been disengaged but will vote in the general , and her poll numbers will only go down from here.
You really picked a doozy this time , Dems.
Trump is facing his own dilemma. Up to now he has made self-financing a virtue and his fans and fanbots argue that he doesn’t owe anything to anyone. But faced with raising not the tens of millions he has put in his campaign over nearly a year but the hundreds of millions PER MONTH he needs to raise to hit the numbers needed by November he will need to find some way to sandwich in fundraisers that bring in $8 million or so PER DAY with the rallies he is counting on to maintain his momentum. All while assuring his followers that he is not selling out.
Trump is the one that needs to move the election up. To like two weeks ago when he swept Northeast States in the primary that he doesn’t have a chance of carrying in the Fall. Trump claims he will carry New York. Hmm what? He got 200,000 LESS votes than Bernie in NY who in turn got THUMPED by Hillary by more than that. Trump is staring up a half a million voter hill in a State that he fondly imagines belongs to him.
Toast. He neither set up a fundraising mechanism or any explanation to his followers of why he will spend most of his time “dropping to his knees” begging for dollars going forwards. Who the Eff is going to give him a billion plus dollars?
Marko,
All I know is that HRH HRC ought to drop to her knees and pray 5 times a day in gratitude that Trump is her opponent. What a wonderfully enlightening and ennobling prospect we face with Trump and Clinton vying to be the least hated Presidential candidate in modern history in order to win the election. Makes me proud…
” Compared to a slime mold , my candidate / political party looks highly effective and intelligent. ”
That’s where both sides will be by November.
( Neither side will compare their morality to the slime mold’s , however. That could backfire. )
Marko,
those things are all out there.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/05/bernie_sanders_electability_argument_is_still_a_myth.html
Nothing likely to rile up the American voter than seeing pictures of the Ayatollah Khomenie; Bernie Sanders and the american hostages flash across the screen as the announcer tells everyone that Sanders was an elector for a communist party who advocated solidarity with the Iranian revolution while Americans were held hostage.
Wanted see turnout? You won’t like those who turn out.
You have to believe that most of that old crap has already been used against Bernie in his races for mayor , congress , and senate , and yet , his repeated electoral successes against such attacks brings him to the point where he’s now running neck and neck in a presidential primary against a putative political juggernaut.
I , for one , would love to see a Trump – Sanders debate about the Sandanista / Contra debacle ( one supposed “scary” area of vulnerability for Sanders due to his support of the Sandanistas). While Trump rambles incoherently , Sanders could use the opportunity to point out how it’s no coincidence that U.S. support for regime change always targets regimes that are inclined to favor people over corporations. Latin American examples like Nicaragua are numerous over recent decades , and continue to accrue today. It would be easy for Sanders to create a narrative that shows that the destruction of the middle-class in the U.S. should not be a surprise – we’ve been fine-tuning the methodology in other countries for decades.
To do that , Sanders would have to admit that both parties have been complicit in this class warfare , both here and abroad. He’d have to say that both parties are corrupt.
Sounds like a surefire winner to me.
Marko,
Rock on!
Little known fact about Nicaragua. Never mind that Reagan declared a National State of Emergency when the Sandinistas overthrew Somoza (the population of Nicaragua is around 6 million), and never mind the crimes committed by Reagan, his CIA Director, his National Security Advisor, his Secretary of Defense and a slew of others in arming the contras…
In proportion to population, more Nicaraguans were killed in those short 7 years than all Americans killed in the Civil War and all the wars of the 20th century combined. Quite a record.
At a time when just 15% of the population has a favorable view of CEOs, and just 20% of the population has a favorable view of Wall Street, and 82% believe the economy is rigged in favor of the rich, we are going to elect a Democratic candidate who represents the interests of CEOs and Wall Street and the rich. And at a time when just 37% want to see the US engage in more interventions abroad, we are going to elect a Democratic candidate who is a neo-con and a hawk.
Yet HRH HRC is the electable one.
“You have to believe that most of that old crap has already been used against Bernie in his races for mayor , congress , and senate”
And yet you did not know of them. And I can guarantee that the vast majority of the American public does not know “that old crap”.
Ms 57,
Agree with everything you said.
Totally disagree it means anything at all to the vast majority of the American public.
EMichael,
But that is the point. When “American Exceptionalism” is best characterized by mass death and national amnesia, nothing changes. It means nothing to the majority of people because there is no context; the context they swim in is “increased defense spending,” “American interests” and “America’s enemies.”
Smedley Butler:
“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
That was 80 years ago. Eighty years from now are we still going to be talking in the same way? How many millions more scalps will we be hanging from our belt?
Nothing that a good “jacketing” or “capping” wouldn’t solve.
Once again I agree with you, but that does not change the ideas and or stances of the American voting public regarding Sanders’ electability.
Seriously, over 40% of the American people believe unemployment has increased and the stock market has gone down under Obama.
Sound bytes are all that matter.