Dustbin of History Looking Increasingly Attractive to the Obama Administration
by Tom Bozzo
Update: See Brad DeLong. The exercise may even have been carefully conceived to do little harm, or perhaps little good if you’re an anti-deficit crazy. But even if this is not as bad on the substance as it could be, the engagement of the administration in the production of Potemkin policy initiatives is not reassuring.
See also: Steve Kyle at Americablog.
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Jackie Calmes’ story on the Obama administration’s apparently forthcoming appearance-of-fiscal-rectitude initiative leaves me solidly in agreement with Ian Welsh. Calmes:
President Obama will call for a three-year freeze in spending on many domestic programs, and for increases no greater than inflation after that, an initiative intended to signal his seriousness about cutting the budget deficit, administration officials said Monday…
[I]t would exempt the Pentagon, foreign aid, the Veterans Administration and homeland security budgets, as well as the entitlement programs that make up the biggest and fastest-growing part of the federal budget, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.
Entitlement spending may be the biggest part of the budget, but it hasn’t been fastest-growing. From 2001 to 2008, defense spending’s share of GDP increased from 3 percent to 4.3 percent, according to the CBO [note: PDF]. All discretionary spending increased by 1.5 percentage points of GDP over the same period, from 6.5 to 8 percent, so nondefense discretionary spending increased by only 0.2 percent of GDP. Entitlements collectively increased by 1.2 percentage points — from 10 to 11.2 percent of GDP — Medicare spending growth accounts for one percentage point of that. Military and other security-related expenditures dominate Bush-era spending growth, and the rate of increase for those expenditures has far outstripped that of entitlements or nondefense discretionary spending.
The payoff in budget savings would be small relative to the deficit: The estimated $250 billion in savings over 10 years is less than 5 percent of the $9 trillion to $10 trillion in additional debt the government is expected to accumulate over that time.
Cutting 1.3 percent of GDP in military spending, in contrast, would save roughly $185 billion (2008 dollars) a year; with interest, that could be around 20 percent of the projected fiscal gap.
The initiative holds political risks as well as potential benefits. Because Mr. Obama exempts military spending while leaving many popular domestic programs vulnerable, his move is certain to further anger liberals in his party, including senior Democrats in Congress, who are already upset by the possible collapse of health care legislation and the troop buildup in Afghanistan, among other things.
Gee, ya think? Even here to the left of slightly-left-of-center, not all Federal spending is equally beloved. But there’s plenty of needed economic transformation that can’t or won’t be accomplished solely by way of private spending, and can’t be funded adequately at FY 2010 levels. I am thinking particularly about bringing various of the U.S.’s mostly inadequate infrastructure networks up to (or back up to) first-world standards.
Here’s the kicker:
But one administration official said that limiting the much smaller discretionary domestic budget would have larger symbolic value: It includes spending covering lawmakers’ earmarks for parochial projects, and only when the public believes such perceived waste is being wrung out will they be willing to consider reductions in popular entitlement programs.
“By helping to create a new atmosphere of fiscal discipline, it can actually also feed into debates over other components of the budget,” the official said, briefing reporters on the condition of anonymity.
So the whole charade is seen as a method to soften the public up for Medicare and Social Security cuts. For sure, health care spending including Medicare can’t grow as projected simply as a matter of Stein’s Law. But a system of reasonably universal, reasonably affordable health care is not obviously going to involve lower Federal spending on health care entitlements. On the Social Security front, Yves Smith recently groaned over a report (via Jesse’s Café Américain) that the Obama administration was seeking to promote conversion of retirement accounts to annuities. The problem with such a proposal, though, is more that private annuities tend to suck (for insurance market failure type reasons) than that senior citizens have too much secure, inflation-protected retirement income. A logical, and maybe even efficient, solution that happens to be off-limits in most of polite society would be to add resources to Social Security to increase benefits. You may see these programs less charitably — you may also have elderly relatives who would be in less dire financial straits without them than I do. The bottom line is that entitlement spending cuts shouldn’t be ends in themselves to anyone left-of-center with half a brain.
In any event, I have had enough. Fire Larry Summers. Fire Tim Geithner. Give Peter Orszag time to spend with his children. End the one-sided pseudo-post-partisan Kumbaya bullshit. Do it now.
Nice post
Part of what I think they want to do is to force people to spend their 401ks/IRAs on themseleves not leave to the heirs. If the estate tax goes back up and the rules on IRA/401ks are changed to make them pay the income tax all at once, then the tax rate would be upwards of 55% for estate tax and then 40% on whats left, i.e. leaving 27% of the IRA to the heirs, at this point you either give it away or spend it (which is a way of getting the economy going again).
“To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.” – 1912 Progressive Party Platform, attributed to Theodore Roosevelt“
Time for a new Progressive Party.
Does any sane person still invest in a 401K? Do you like to gamble with your earnings? Should anyone be forced to?
Hey our imperial wars must continue at all cost and probably be expanded. There is a wonderful ad for a warmonger (Marine veteran) Jesse somebody who is running for Congress on the Drudge Report site. I suppose one more warmonger in Congress won’t make all that much difference but it’s nice to know the billions down the empire-drain will continue willy nilly. I do hope we manage to spend another trillion or two or even more on our empire (unsuccessful) in the next few years. I will adore the fiscal collapse it will entail. Oh, it’s all so funny and delightful to see Unkie Sam pound the nails in his casket. I’m very old, so I couldn’t care less about the future. Who will go first? Me or Unkie Sam?
warprofiteers=warmongers
Tom Bozzo – “Cutting 1.3 percent of GDP in military spending, in contrast, would save roughly $185 billion (2008 dollars) a year; with interest, that could be around 20 percent of the projected fiscal gap.”
According to OMB’s Mid Session Review, DoD funding is reduced from 4.9% GDP in FY2010 to 3.7% GDP in FY2013; a reduction of 1.2% GDP. DoD funding continues to fall each fiscal year thereafter, reaching 3.1% GDP by FY2019.
One serious problem is net interest growth.
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Mid Session Review
Budget of the U.S. Government
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/fy2010_msr/10msr.pdf
Table S–5. PROPOSED BUDGET BY CATEGORY AS A PERCENT OF GDP
(As a percent of GDP)
Outlays:
Appropriated (“discretionary”) programs:
Defense (050) including cost of overseas contingency operations
FY10-19
4.9 4.4 3.9 3.7 3.5 3.4 3.3 3.3 3.2 3.1
Non-defense discretionary
FY10-19
4.8 4.3 3.9 3.7 3.5 3.4 3.3 3.3 3.2 3.1
Net interest
FY10-19
1.4 1.9 2.4 2.8 2.9 3.1 3.2 3.2 3.3 3.4
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Table S–6. PROPOSED BUDGET BY CATEGORY ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION AND POPULATION GROWTH
(In billions of dollars, based on 2010 prices and population)
Outlays:
Appropriated (“discretionary”) programs:
Defense (050) including cost of overseas contingency operations
FY10-19
714 647 598 581 572 567 563 558 554 550
Non-defense discretionary
FY10-19
698 630 594 575 567 566 564 561 557 554
Net interest
FY10-19
196 281 369 432 472 505 532 555 575 596
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Memorandum, funding (“budgetary resources”) for appropriated programs:
Defense (050) including funding for overseas contingency operations
FY10-19
687 600 592 585 580 576 572 567 563 559
Non-defense discretionary
FY10-19
573 572 585 583 582 576 573 569 564 561
.
Tom Bozzo – “Cutting 1.3 percent of GDP in military spending, in contrast, would save roughly $185 billion (2008 dollars) a year; with interest, that could be around 20 percent of the projected fiscal gap.”
According to OMB’s Mid Session Review, DoD funding is reduced from 4.9% GDP in FY2010 to 3.7% GDP in FY2013; a reduction of 1.2% GDP. DoD funding continues to fall each fiscal year thereafter, reaching 3.1% GDP by FY2019.
One serious problem is net interest growth.
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Mid Session Review
Budget of the U.S. Government
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/fy2010_msr/10msr.pdf
Table S–5. PROPOSED BUDGET BY CATEGORY AS A PERCENT OF GDP
(As a percent of GDP)
Outlays:
Appropriated (discretionary) programs:
Defense (050) including cost of overseas
contingency operations
FY10-19
4.9 4.4 3.9 3.7 3.5 3.4 3.3 3.3 3.2 3.1
Non-defense discretionary
FY10-19
4.8 4.3 3.9 3.7 3.5 3.4 3.3 3.3 3.2 3.1
Net interest
FY10-19
1.4 1.9 2.4 2.8 2.9 3.1 3.2 3.2 3.3 3.4
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Table S–6. PROPOSED BUDGET BY CATEGORY ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION AND POPULATION GROWTH
(In billions of dollars, based on 2010 prices and population)
Outlays:
Appropriated (discretionary) programs:
Defense (050) including cost of overseas contingency operations
FY10-19
714 647 598 581 572 567 563 558 554 550
Non-defense discretionary
FY10-19
698 630 594 575 567 566 564 561 557 554
Net interest
FY10-19
196 281 369 432 472 505 532 555 575 596
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Memorandum, funding (budgetary resources) for appropriated programs:
Defense (050) including funding for overseas contingency operations
FY10-19
687 600 592 585 580 576 572 567 563 559
Non-defense discretionary
FY10-19
573 572 585 583 582 576 573 569 564 561
.
Oh I do hope we don’t cut the military. Think of our security. We are almost sure to all be blown up. We must spend MORE on our empire, not less. Has anyone ever calculated the cost-return for “terror” incidents. I mean, how much did al-Qaeda spend on 9/11 vs how much it has cost us to react? How much did the unsuccessful plane bomber recently cost the “terrorists” compared to what our reaction cost us. Would the relationship be, possibly, something like10,000,000 to 1? A one dollar expenditure by “terror” costs us ten million for our reaction. More or less? What I am suggesting is that terror is a high payoff activfity.
Of course terrorism is certainly a stimulus to the economy. It makes us spend more for people to check everybody flying, for the inspection equiment, for the bureaucrats to arrange it all, etc., etc. I am sure it is a better way for the country to spend money than to spend money on housing or food or essential for the poor and middle class. They are pretty worthless “its” and if their lives are spent in poverty and such, who really cares? Not decent Americans, certainly.
warprofiteers=warmongers
I’m beginning to think McCain ran the most amazing campaign for president in history. That disguise was and is amazing. And as long as he doesn’t invade Iran nobody is going to guess.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/budget/fy2010/090226_omb_fy10_dod.pdf
This site gives military spending as 534.5b in 2006, 600.9 in 2007, 666b in 2008, 654.7b in 2009 and 663.7 in 2010. The problem is that various sites calculate total military spending differently so it is difficult to get completely comparable totals. I am sure MG with his knack for statistics can tell us exactly how military spending has evolved so that the figures from year to year are comparable. I get the impression it keeps going up. I sure hope so, since if we ever let down our guard, we’d all be speaking Arabic in a short time. Can’t let that happen.
warprofiteers=warmongers
The only problem I see with the long term projections is that they are well……imaginary. That is, we don’t know what we will have to spend until we are closer to the time the money will be needed. Those terrible terrorists could spring surprises that would force us to spend a lot more. I mean didn’t Bush tell us the Iraq war was over in 2003 and supposedly military expenditures could go down? Things happen it would seem that always push them upward. How can we know what we will have to spend to keep Islam from taking us over in say, 2015?
President Obama sould call for a three-year freeze in spending on many domestic programs, and for increases no greater than inflation after that, an initiative intended to signal his seriousness about cutting the budget deficit. I think he should pay attention on this issue.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2010/01/barack-herbert-hoover-obama.html
Yeah Herbert Hoover Obama. Cutting spending before there is really any recovery. I wonder who put this zany idea into his head. Cantab perhaps? LOL.
And of course our Holy Wars just continue and continue and continue. Got to defeat those heathen or Rome will fall.
Krugman is pessimistic. Obama got scared (whites won’t like me) into being timid and it is costing him. And us, since the GOP would have been worse and will be worse if it ever comes to power since there aren’t any brains at all in the GOP.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/25/of-fate-and-fumbles/
warprofiteers=warmongers
Obama told us it took him months to make a descision on Afghanistan because it was important and he was considering it carefully to make the right choice. Obama’s making this snap decision on the budget looks to be Obama’s way of saying “The age of diligence in big government is over”
@MG: Those are fair points; Obama policy had been basically to capture very slowly some ‘peace dividend’ by winding down the ‘overseas contingency operations’ (nice euphemism). However, MSR was from August and so doesn’t include at least a few tenths of a percent of GDP in new spending for Afghanistan — depending on just how closed-ended that contingency operation should prove to be. Looking on the bright side of death, net interest expenditures may not be so bad in a deflationary double-dip recession world.
I should note that I’m not advocating 3-3.1% of 2019 GDP as a sensible level of defense spending. Based on the MSR projections, you can take $185 billion (2008$) out in FY19 and still end up spending just about $500 billion (nominal) or $420 billion (2008$).
Of course we really have no idea what we will be spending in FY19 since lots of things could happen between now and then. I do love to see the idea that we plan on still spending $20 billion…… down the rat hole of empire then. Plus what we will be spending between now and then. How will we pay for it? I know: abolish social security and medicare. Holy Wars are expensive, you know.
warproofiteers=warmongers
“peace dividend” is about as funny as “Defense Department.” Just sayin’.
Somebody want to try to seriously maintain that the US Defense budget isn’t seriously out of hand? If you ask me, we are a bunch of airheaded, bloodthirsty, undisciplined cowards. I’d suggest that we can adequately defend this country and its legitimate interests with a budget around 80-100 billion. Not quite the “no standing armies” of the founders. But a huge step toward rational and responsible conduct.
2008 Defence Budget (US$) Total Service Personnel Cost per Serviceman
USA $695 billion 1,499,000 $463,642
China (PRC) $58 billion 2,105,000 $27,553
UK $54 billion 187,000 $291,891
France $45 billion 254,000 $177,165
Japan $41 billion 240,000 $183,333
Germany $35 billion 245,000 $142,857
Here’s a bright idea from a very bright man.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246072/Lets-bribe-Taliban-Many-mercenaries-pull-guns-cash-says-Brown.html
Bribe the Taliban into peace. Of course if you pay them once, they might like it so much they will take up arms again and make you pay them twice, and then thrice, etc., etc., etc. I can understand why he is the PM of the UK.
You need to remember where Krugman is coming from. PK is one of the few Americans who actually has some understanding of what a liquidity trap is and how difficult it is to escape from one. He also understands pretty well what has gone on in Japan since 1990 and knows that half measures — even aggressive ones — haven’t worked. The Nikkei 225 today stands a bit over 10000 — less than 30% of its peak just under 39000 at the end of 1989. During the same period, Japan’s public debt has gone from 68% of GDP to 213% of GDP — mostly as a result of repeated (failed) attempts to stimulate the economy into growth
Krugman seems to be scared stiff that the US could be headed down the same road. His position seems to be that we know how to handle inflation. We don’t know how to handle deflation. So inflation is the lessor of the two risks.
***In any event, I have had enough. Fire Larry Summers. Fire Tim Geithner. Give Peter Orszag time to spend with his children. End the one-sided pseudo-post-partisan Kumbaya bullshit. Do it now.***
Planning to run for public office? If so, you have my vote.
@Lyle: There’s a valid issue of retirement income security. For the 55-64 year olds in the 2007 Survey of Consumer Finances (taken at the last market peak!) who actually had retirement accounts, the median balance was only $98,000; 39 percent have zero. So a $100,000 balance is around the 70th percentile for near-retirees. Outliving such sums is not hard, and vanishingly few retirement account holders would have the tax issues you cite.
@Trainwreck: Saving in a tax-deferred retirement account is sane enough, assuming the plan is well designed — which it probably isn’t. I view even most life-cycle funds as being too aggressive for money that retirees can’t afford to lose; it seems that a shocking number of retirees or near-retirees are (or as of the last crash were) completely exposed to the stock market. *That* would have been insane were those conscious decisions, but the typical situation seems to be that people have no clue as to the risks they’re taking.
@Lyle: There’s a valid issue of retirement income security. For the 55-64 year olds in the 2007 Survey of Consumer Finances (taken at the last market peak!) who actually had retirement accounts, the median balance was only $98,000; 39 percent have zero. So a $100,000 balance is around the 70th percentile for near-retirees. Outliving such sums is not hard, and vanishingly few retirement account holders would have the tax issues you cite.
@Trainwreck: Saving in a tax-deferred retirement account is sane enough, assuming the plan is well designed — which it probably isn’t. I view even most life-cycle funds as being too aggressive for money that retirees can’t afford to lose; it seems that a shocking number of retirees or near-retirees are (or as of the last crash were) completely exposed to the stock market. *That* would have been insane were those conscious decisions, but the typical situation seems to be that people have no clue as to the risks they’re taking.
MM–People who think it is possible to “win” a war in Afghanistan don’t understand the culture. The Pashtun and their enemies live to fight. It’s what they do. They will never stop fighting because there is so little to be had in that country that the choice is between bribery and war. Poor people fight in the hope of getting enough ahead so they can bribe their way to a temporary peace. Then, save up to fight again and be able to continue bribing their enemies. Who are their enemies? Other Pashtun (or in the North, the Kazakis and the Turkic and Tajiks people) depending on what valley you’re in.
It turned out after we got thoroughly bogged down in Iraq, that Sadam would have left town if we had given him $2 billion or so. Cheap at the price. We can buy every Pashtun and Northern Alliance warlord in Afghanistan for less than it takes to fight there. I’m for that. It’s cheaper.
I forgot to mention Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod. Fast trains, clean electricity, and fiber-optic internet for everyone!
Voters are angry because of high unemployment and lack of JOBS. Voters are only angry at spending because, “All that spending is not creating JOBS”. JOB creation is essential to changing the dynamic. The public would be fine with spending if it were creating JOBS.
No matter how much spending is cut, the public will complain, “All that spending is not creating JOBS”. Creating JOBS would be a winner. Cutting spending is irrelevant.
Our political and media elites (Obama included) are morons. At least Bill Clinton understood the importance of JOBS.
Republicans understand the importance of jobs, but only support job creation for their cronies, not the country at large. Democrat elites underestimate the importance of jobs. This disconnects Democrats from their base. Our media elites could never understand why Bill Clinton was so popular. Simply put, people had JOBS. Until Obama, gets it and the economy starts creating JOBS, he will lose popularity. The administration response to this recession has been an underwhelming disappointment.
@VtCodger: Indeed, it would take expenditure of enormous political capital to drive expenditures as low as 2 percent of GDP, which is a hell of a lot of money, and by many standards we’d *still* be suckers to spend that much.
bakho–What you said. It’s the jobs, stupid. Not you, bakho. You’re smart. 😉
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aYgc4eXd3QIo&pos=9
deeper and deeper into the quicksand. It’s a nice fantasy to think our Holy War is going to get cheaper or cost less. It’s going to keep expanding. There are so many Muslim nations we have to occupy and subdue….LOL
Yeah but how often will we have to pay them off?. Bribery, liike blackmail, is a repeat business, Nancy. Once they get a taste of that money, they keep coming back for more and more and more…….Anyhoo as Pape has shown, it isn’t really money the Muslim liberationaist want; it’s US OUT of their territory. If we had the rudimentary sense to simply get out and leave them alone bribes would not be needed. That is too simple for the brilliant brains of London and Washington to comprehend.
Well jobs require stimulus spending but lots of “brains” in Washington want jobs without more stimulus spending. Not possible. But too simple for great brains to understand. Krugman and Stiglitz understand, but hey, they are…..I hate to say the word,…..Keynesians.
How can you keep dogs from going back to their vomit????
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aCb6JDT0sOWc&pos=10
I’ve been telling my clients for years that the US is headed for a Japan type scenario with years of stagnation.
The Japanese worked hard to create stagnation with contradictory policies every time they seemed to be starting to have sustained growth.
Boy are we doing the same thing.
We were able to survive years of Republican irresponsibility and stupidity, but now that the democrats are starting to follow the same tpes of ingorant policies I really worry about the ability of our system to survive.
“Cutting spending is irrelevant.”
Yeah, someone (Krugman?) had a post about polls that showed a huge fraction of the pop didn’t know even the basics of what the deficit/surplus was doing in the 1990s. That, combined with the fact the Rethuglicans get away with deficit spending, shows that it’s really not all that politically important.
One of the ironies is that the member of the Admin who seems to be most consistently on-message on the fact that the stimulus spending *did* create jobs — the issue Bakho raises, of course, is scale of the package, not whether it’s done what it’s capable of doing — is Ray LaHood.
@Margery, I assume we’re seeing the results of Larry Summers trying to figure out a bone to throw to the anti-deficit crazies that is minimally harmful. However, I did not vote for what DeLong is calling ‘dingbat Kabuki,’ and if developing dingbat Kabuki is Larry Summers’s highest-valued use, then the administrations policy and political processes are terribly broken.
The fiscal situation isn’t getting any better really, and hey our endless Holy War has to go on at all costs. Whatever the cost. Sure it does. Give up our empire and we’ll just collapse in a heap.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100126/ap_on_bi_ge/us_obama_budget;_ylt=AhlSLRelo2noLbRImkG84WGs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNmZzFuNzJhBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwMTI2L3VzX29iYW1hX2J1ZGdldARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzEEcG9zAzIEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA2Nib2ZlZGVyYWxkZQ—
How much extra do we need to bribe them so they won’t make women wear veils or execute them at soccer stadiums. If they promised to become like France for $1 billion I would pay the bribe given what its likely to cost us.
Also health care for all and swords to plowshares.
***How much extra do we need to bribe them so they won’t make women wear veils or execute them at soccer stadiums.***
Your arrogance is as great as your insight is small. Whether the Afghans enforce shiria law is none of your or my goddam business. Never has been. BTW, The most stubborn adherents to that particular form of barbarism surely are the Saudis, not the Taliban. The Saudis have regular public executions. You want to clean that up also?
(Never mind head coverings. As far as I can tell, women are still forbidden to drive cars in Saudi Arabia although they are generously permitted to own cars)
If we are going to deal with barbarism, how about we first tackle that which is within our control? The death penalty in the US, the human rights horror show at Guantanamo bay, and our practice of blowing up buildings in the Middle East (frequently the wrong building) without knowing for sure who is inside. As a pragmatic matter, that last seems to greatly irk the freinds and relatives of our victims — I can’t think why.
I look forward to your proposal to cut off all trade with Saudi Arabia until they adopt a justice system that meets your high standards.
Remember when Romer and her buddies bothered to mention 1937? The Obama people know this stuff. They are pretending not to because the got scared. (Where is Romer, by the way?)
Meanwhile, if we mean to be serious, as opposed to be “serious-minded individuals” (or whatever the phrase is), we need to step back and remember stuff we know, but that gets caught in the shuffle. What is the greatest cause of the structural deficit now and in the near term? Bush tax cuts. That is not really something on which “thoughtful people can differ” (or whatever the phrase is). What is the biggest projected source of future deficits, larger even than making Bush tax cuts permanent? Rising health care costs. Remind me – where are we on these two issues and what is the recent history of debate?
MM–Yes, but if you want to stay because of FILL IN THE BLANK HERE, just bribe them. It is a repeat business, of course. Still cheaper than fighting. And, we don’t actually have to have a lot of people there. Just ones with the money bags.
Cantab–No amount of money on earth will keep the Pashtun from being the misogynists from Hell. No chance of changing that culture in this or any other lifetime.
***…fast trains … ***
Y’know, they don’t really have to be that fast. Just moderately fast, frequent, and on time. Sixty years ago, you could board the 20th Century Limited at Grand Central Station and step down from the SuperChief at Union Station in Los Angeles just a bit over two days later Given the current nightmare that is air travel, you can easily spend 56 hours or more trying to go a shorter distance. Especially if there is one drop of precipitation anywhere in North America. Recently some acquaintances took three days to get from Santa Fe, New Mexico to Burlington, Vermont. They actually ended up in Manchester, New Hampshire and had to rent a car in order to drive the last 150 miles. (Where is Mussolini when you need him?)
Anyway, with some track upgrades, and giving priority to passenger traffic, we could make probably rail travel attractive again. Certainly for medium distances 150-600 miles. Furthemore, if we got the medium distance traffic out of airports, the major airports would hopefully no longer be operating right at their capacity and would quit running hours late as soon as any little thing went wrong.
***… and swords to plowshares.***
” O’ beautiful, for spacious skies
But now those skies are threatening
They’re beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
Armchair warriors often fail
And we’ve been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers clean up all details …”
Don Henley — The End of the Innocence. http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/4849/
I can’t see that our pointless militarism has gained us a damn thing other than a lot of public debt and no small number of enemies.
Yeah, Rahm needs to go. IN a big way. A lot of this healthcare debacle is his fault. Obama’s mishandling of this was on Rahm’s counsel. Rahm needs to be shown the door.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/obama-liquidates-himself/
Obama scared whites might not like him. Sad for him, sad for America. But very revealing about us in general.
It took me a while because this freeze thing looks so utterly senseless on the surface. But I think I have it figured out. I think Obama and his advisors think that the recession is basically over and that from here on out, it’s just a matter of kicking back and watching the recovery handle itself.
I doubt it is going to work out that way, but if it did, then a spending freeze might be reasonable public policy … maybe … possibly.
I do wonder what plan B is. They DO have a Plan B, right?
VtCodger,
I don’t like the Saudis either. You’re the one that’s confused over your own moral values, not me.
I think this “freeze” thing is a reaction to the Village analysis of the MA election. Even his “stim” actions to be presented are more tax cut stuff.
Face it, as I have asked before and now state: Time to try a different school of economics. There is no way to get out of this trap that is a $1.4 trillion/yr shortfall in the personal income to the bottom 99% with tax cuts, military spending and short little spending frolicks. At least it can’t be done if we want to be the great economic power we fancy ourselves as being.
How much longer can we go with the top 1% taking income out of the machine faster than the machine can produce it?
Plan B is to follow what ever the Village states when plan A fails. And failure will suggest to the Village that Plan A did not go far enough with it’s shift rightward.
I forgot, they can spend all they want on defense as long as they tax those who benefit from our worldly adventures enough to pay for it.
As for me, I’ll rely on making allies. It works better and is soooooooooo much less expensive. Kind of like some health care proposals. You know, the ones where they don’t want to pay for materity care because the baby making days are over.
Bakho
At least Bill Clinton understood the importance of JOBS.
But he only knew that jobs kept him from being removed from office after he was impeached, he had no idea how to create them.
Spenser,
You’re wrong about everything. Japan was an example of a country that went full in for Keynesian stimulus. It lost them a decade and so far its lost us a year.
Cantab. I don’t know how to break this to you. You have no moral values.
VtCodger,
I don’t know how to break this to you. You have no moral values.
I don’t think you understand what a moral value is. I don’t care what shiria says, if you take women down to a soccer stadium and murder them from some trivial offence you have committed a moral abomination. You say its not our business, that makes you a bad person.
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